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I heard an argument that real/true Catholics are suppose to believe the earth is flat? If Catholics believe the earth is round then, they are not conforming to Catholic doctrine. OK, I know it sounds strange, but has anyone heard this, or can anyone elaborate..??
I heard an argument that real/true Catholics are suppose to believe the earth is flat? If Catholics believe the earth is round then, they are not conforming to Catholic doctrine. OK, I know it sounds strange, but has anyone heard this, or can anyone elaborate..??
Not a chance.
The word "world, in Hebrew is tebel, " and is from the Hebrew root elements which mean "to swell". We also get the word "ball" from the "BL" root elements; and balloon, and bulb, and so on and so forth.
Not at all! I don't know where on Earth you heard that, but it is definitely not true. I mean really, this is obvious. You coulda looked it up instead of jumping to conclusions and thinking that's what we really believe.
I heard an argument that real/true Catholics are suppose to believe the earth is flat? If Catholics believe the earth is round then, they are not conforming to Catholic doctrine. OK, I know it sounds strange, but has anyone heard this, or can anyone elaborate..??
Not any of the nuns that taught me. I think you are referring to a time WAY back in the midsts of time (1615?) when Galieo proved the theory that the world was round and that it revolved around the Sun rather than the other way around. He was admonished/censored not to teach this until he had proof - but once Pope Urban VIII asked him to write a study containing both heliocentrism and geocentrism, he agreed. But acting spiteful, he wrote a book far different - Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems. For this he was called a heretic and placed under house arrest (1632). It did actually take them to 1992 to officially apologize to him (what's 300 years???!!) - but I can assure you that in Catholic Schools - we were aware of the Earth's rotation and the fact that it was indeed round!
Not any of the nuns that taught me. I think you are referring to a time WAY back in the midsts of time (1615?) when Galieo proved the theory that the world was round and that it revolved around the Sun rather than the other way around. He was admonished/censored not to teach this until he had proof - but once Pope Urban VIII asked him to write a study containing both heliocentrism and geocentrism, he agreed. But acting spiteful, he wrote a book far different - Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems. For this he was called a heretic and placed under house arrest (1632). It did actually take them to 1992 to officially apologize to him (what's 300 years???!!) - but I can assure you that in Catholic Schools - we were aware of the Earth's rotation and the fact that it was indeed round!
Almost forgot that, yeah. It was the tendency of Church leaders way back when to accept the scientific teachings of those before the Dark Ages (Greek scientists and such). Since then we have discovered the situation is quite different.
Neither side on the Galileo issue believed in a flat Earth. Most of the educated class among Catholics had stopped believing in that around the eighth century. Thomas Aquinas refers to the Earth as a sphere in the Summa.
Possibly what the poster is thinking of is geocentrism. Robert Sungenis of Catholic Apologetics International is a Creationist who believes in geocentrism. He at least seems to imply that rejecting geocentrism is atheistic or at least un-Catholic. Mr. Sungenis is something of a controversial figure though and has no actual position in the faith so far as I can tell.
One Gallup poll indicated 18% of US people and 19% of the British answered that "the Sun revolves around the Earth" when asked. Another researcher seemed to confirm that, at least of Americans.
Now in some sense it is true the Sun revolves around the Earth. In that the Earth's gravity causes a, very minute I believe, wobble on the Sun. Also if you fiddle with geometry and relativity a bit you can justify saying the Sun revolves around the Earth. For most practical purposes it doesn't and I think since the nineteenth century very few Catholics have been taught the geocentric model.
I heard an argument that real/true Catholics are suppose to believe the earth is flat? If Catholics believe the earth is round then, they are not conforming to Catholic doctrine. OK, I know it sounds strange, but has anyone heard this, or can anyone elaborate..??
That is what is wrong with people. Stereotyping. I am guilty of one. I am a Catholic, I never was raised to believe the earth was flat since there are evidence of REAL pics of earth from space and it isn't flat.
But if you had lived a couple of thousand years ago, you would have. It is only the irrefutable evidence that has rewritten the nonsensical science in the book of fables, and as more is proven, more of the nonsense will be discarded. And if we don't destroy ourselves in an orgy of religious based hatred, we will eventually discard religion completely as merely a myth.
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Originally Posted by putanginaniyo
I believe in the creation of all living things but I am not a creationist. I am a Catholic. I have not gone to church for a long time now though or even practice Catholic 'chores'. Evolution and dinosaurs is a joke to me mainly because atheist scientists are using it as 'evidence' that there is no God. It comes of as beyond blasphemous to me.
You really sound like you don't really know what you think, but that you have an agenda, but your statements verify you come up short on facts. There are many christian scientists that also support evolution due to the overwhelming amount of evidence, that that includes catholics. And clearly your ignorance of Atheists is, well glaring, and speaks poorly for you.
That said Collins accepts evolution so far as I know. Most of the Christians in science do, but I grant there are exceptions. Henry F. Schaeffer III has won some chemistry awards and is an Intelligent Design advocate. There are a few other ID advocates with fair to okay credentials. Although most ID advocates do believe in a Universe billions of years old where species alter over time. However they indicate "evolution" involved divine intervention and was intended to produce people or some such.
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