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Old 05-02-2024, 05:59 PM
 
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That IDK. He had no income at the time because the injury forced him to stop work.
Very likely they will send him to collection. And these days easy to ignore.
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Old 05-02-2024, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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We can't find the money for a national healthcare system to help US citizens as an essential service much like we fund the fire fighters or police officers,
Shouldn't we demand more of our elected officials to spend some of that money at home here on taking care of our wellbeing?
I agree, but I live in Canada. Here our taxes are spent on our people's needs, not the materials for wars in other countries.

Everybody is going to need more health care as they age. I am 83 years old and in the past three years I have been hospitalized three times, had a pacemaker installed among other health problems. If it were not for our healthcare system I would be living on the street.
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Old 05-02-2024, 08:21 PM
 
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How are donations not included in "a variety of ways?" And NPOs (Non-Profit Organizations), by definition, have no profits to tax.
That's not really true. Non-profits pay taxes on income that's not related to their non-profit purpose. I've been on the board of a couple of non-profits that had to pay taxes on unrelated income.

Also, non-profit does not mean the entity does not make a profit - many of them do make a profit, it means it is organized not to make profits for distribution to owners.
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Old 05-02-2024, 08:22 PM
 
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Again, why wasn't he put on a payment plan?
I'm just explaining to you what charity care means in the hospital context. That's all.
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Old 05-02-2024, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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If you want to hear how really ****ed up we are listen to this guy. Shawn Ryan has some great shows and this guy was born in Afghanistan who is now a grateful American and works for intel agencies.

We fund the Taliban but can't take care of our own people

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2k5...T8ifBz52MoW_MA
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Old 05-02-2024, 10:22 PM
 
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In theory, yes. In reality, healthcare claims are denied or only partially reimbursed all the time.

I went to a private dental clinic through the blue shield network, paid out of pocket, and my employer provided healthcare (Geoblue) decided they weren't going to make the full reimbursement because "I didn't submit the correct receipts." Mind you, I submitted the exact same paperwork for a previous dental procedure they fully reimbursed me for. Luckily, the cost wasn't much for both visits.

In summary, never get cavities, stay healthy, and be prepared to go to Mexico or Turkey to get expensive medical procedures done. Because your claim might get denied.
No one has great dental insurance. No idea why. We always have to pay upfront with dentists. Then they submit it to insurance and we get partially reimbursed. Not sure why your employer has any say.
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Old 05-02-2024, 11:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why would anyone want to start a company thinking they have to basically adopt someone.
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Old 05-03-2024, 05:22 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That's not really true. Non-profits pay taxes on income that's not related to their non-profit purpose. I've been on the board of a couple of non-profits that had to pay taxes on unrelated income.

Also, non-profit does not mean the entity does not make a profit - many of them do make a profit, it means it is organized not to make profits for distribution to owners.
The point is that taxpayers aren't funding them, as the other poster mistakenly believes. Not-for-profit hospitals and health systems essentially have two sources of funding:

1) Revenue from operations and investments

and/or

2) They borrow funds through issuance of debt in the bond markets or other forms of borrowing (bank LOCs, etc.)
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Old 05-03-2024, 06:02 AM
 
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The point is that taxpayers aren't funding them, as the other poster mistakenly believes. Not-for-profit hospitals and health systems essentially have two sources of funding:

1) Revenue from operations and investments

and/or

2) They borrow funds through issuance of debt in the bond markets or other forms of borrowing (bank LOCs, etc.)
Provided a link that shows they are at least partially funding charity care.
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Old 05-03-2024, 06:25 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Provided a link that shows they are at least partially funding charity care.
No, you didn't. You posted a link that said the state and fed governments give not-for-profit corps tax breaks. Well, no kidding. The entire point of not-for-profits is that they have little to no profits to tax.
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