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Old 04-21-2024, 07:35 PM
 
Location: az
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Of course there was no gunfire in the videos I posted. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. The story that took place in Paris, TX, over 80 rounds of gunfire on the scene. We're talking about a town of 24,000 people. My point is that this is going on in the small towns too.
I'm not suggesting it didn't happen. My point is what we hear in Oakland sounds like a war zone. There was nothing in the two clips posted in which to compare

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Old 04-22-2024, 05:46 AM
 
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Of course there was no gunfire in the videos I posted. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. The story that took place in Paris, TX, over 80 rounds of gunfire on the scene. We're talking about a town of 24,000 people. My point is that this is going on in the small towns too.
Not nearly as often as you seem to be making it. I live in a town of 28k, the last shooting we had here was a murder/suicide in 2018. The one prior to that, was 2007, a husband murdered his wife.
50 miles south, in Detroit, there is a shooting (s) nightly, granted, the population is 20 times that of my town.
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Old 04-22-2024, 05:53 AM
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The best solution would be to drop off guns throughout these high crime areas and I’d bet in no time flat they’d all wipe each other out.
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Old 04-22-2024, 05:56 AM
 
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The best solution would be to drop off guns throughout these high crime areas and I’d bet in no time flat they’d all wipe each other out.
The problem is the innocents that get caught in the crossfire.
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Old 04-22-2024, 06:00 AM
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The problem is the innocents that get caught in the crossfire.
Collateral damage. It’s necessary to break the cycle.
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Old 04-22-2024, 06:03 AM
 
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Collateral damage. It’s necessary to break the cycle.
So, nothing different than what we have now.
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Old 04-22-2024, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The best solution would be to drop off guns throughout these high crime areas and I’d bet in no time flat they’d all wipe each other out.
It's really difficult to get guns in these high crime areas.
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Old 04-22-2024, 06:06 AM
 
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And this is have gone for years and that didn't changed a lot since movies like "Boyz N The Hood" was released in the early 1990s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4sKiGkzKJo
LA has changed a lot since then though. Now it has the crime rate of Tokyo. It seems only Memphis and Atlanta are like that in 2024.
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Old 04-22-2024, 06:14 AM
 
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It's really difficult to get guns in these high crime areas.
In my state, one has to attain a purchase permit from the local, which generally takes a few days to get. Once the individual has that, they go to the FFL, at the point of transfer, one fills out a 4473 and an RI-060, and there is another background check done, then, if all goes well, a copy of the RI-060 goes to the local PD where that firearm is then registered with the MSP. If one already has a CPL, they can skip the purchase permit.

So, any other laws you think we should have that will prevent criminals from getting these firearms ?
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Old 04-22-2024, 06:18 AM
 
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The gunfire we hear in the Oakland video is so heavy it sounds like an actual war zone. I can't imagine how many rounds were fired that night.

There were no video/audio of the gunplay in the two videos you posted.
In my experience with Chicago the core feature is that it doesn't impact anyone with money, influence or in-play votes.

To smooth ruffled feathers in the most impacted areas the politicians use:

1) blame guns, blame outside forces

2) payoffs via jobs, contributions etc. to key figures that will deflect anger directed at the politicians from those groups. (Saw Mayor Daley do that first hand with Sharpton, this is how you used to buy off communities after police shootings and other events.) Less effective now, I think due to social media.


In my experience with smaller towns it can be rival groups or in some cases just personal beefs possibly involving women as well, it tends to get more complicated.
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