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Old 01-09-2023, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I guess not as essential as RR workers.
They can prepare:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-yor...als-on-strike/

Reporters combed through hundreds of state inspection reports, internal company records, photographs, and videos, and conducted more than 170 interviews with regulators, clients’ families, and current and former workers. Again and again, they found residents consigned to live in squalor, denied basic medical care, or all but abandoned.

https://www.mdlinx.com/article/break...Z0BZjwgo7DY71I

In a January 8 press call, NYSNA president Nancy Hagans, RN, BSN, CCRN, said Montefiore has 760 nursing vacancies, and “too often one nurse in the emergency department is responsible for 20 patients instead of the standard of three patients.”
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:11 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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They can prepare:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-yor...als-on-strike/

Reporters combed through hundreds of state inspection reports, internal company records, photographs, and videos, and conducted more than 170 interviews with regulators, clients’ families, and current and former workers. Again and again, they found residents consigned to live in squalor, denied basic medical care, or all but abandoned.

https://www.mdlinx.com/article/break...Z0BZjwgo7DY71I

In a January 8 press call, NYSNA president Nancy Hagans, RN, BSN, CCRN, said Montefiore has 760 nursing vacancies, and “too often one nurse in the emergency department is responsible for 20 patients instead of the standard of three patients.”
Going on strike isn't going to get them more bodies though.
The big hurdle in nursing school is passing college algebra and statistics.....
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:12 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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250k a year?? Good money if you can get it I guess.

The bed shortage thing is a bit scary.

I generally am supportive of these types of worker rights stuff, but it would be nice to know some of the nitty gritty details. I thought that nurses were generally paid pretty well overall.
"Paid pretty well overall" is not such a black and white statement. If they are truly understaffed, their shifts can be dreadful, and they should be paid more than nurses in hospitals that are not understaffed.

And you have to ask yourself, why they are understaffed. Are they understaffed because the shifts are so bad that the only people they can attract are travel nurses at 2X or 3X the hourly rate?

If they fix the salary issue, that should take care of the understaffing issue because that would attract more full time nurses. The problem is, the hospital bean counters avoid raising salaries as much as possible, because once you raise the salaries, they won't go down if/when the shortage is over. They are stuck paying the higher salary. So they would rather take a financial hit NOW by paying overtime, and bringing in travel nurses, with the hope that the labor market improves in their favor. It hasn't improved in the hospital's favor in years, so it is just wishful thinking. So in their own best interest, it would probably be wiser to pay a wage that attracts more full time employees, which will fix the staffing issues, which will attract even MORE full time employees, and then they can stop bringing in these super expensive travel nurses.
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Here's an idea:
Stop giving gazillions of dollars to the Ukraine and instead use it to take welfare collectors and turn them into functioning members of society.
stop making sense...you are confusing me, and those who infest the swamp in DC.
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:19 PM
 
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I guess not as essential as RR workers.
Apples and Oranges. The RR strike was for all RR workers in the entire USA.

This nurse strike impacts 2 hospitals in NY. NY State has 212 hospitals and NYC has 62 acute care hospitals
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:22 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Apples and Oranges. The RR strike was for all RR workers in the entire USA.

This nurse strike impacts 2 hospitals in NY. NY State has 212 hospitals and NYC has 62 acute care hospitals
DHS declared them essential workers under the pandemic emergency.
As far as I know we are still under that emergency as Biden keeps renewing it.
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:31 PM
 
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People should learn to take better care of themselves, thereby eliminating the demand for that many nurses.
No kidding. If covid should've taught people anything its don’t get caught up in our clown world medical system
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:42 PM
 
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DHS declared them essential workers under the pandemic emergency.
As far as I know we are still under that emergency as Biden keeps renewing it.
LOL. Most jobs in the USA were categorized as essential during the pandemic.
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:55 PM
 
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They should do some Tik Tok videos
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Old 01-09-2023, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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how can they strike if they are essential?
Lol, "you're too valuable to be demanding anything!". Sweet irony. Nothing personal, just a dig at the govt.
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