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I don’t care whether she comes back or not. The United States isn’t so fragile as a nation that we’ll have a cataclysmic collapse if she returns. It’s no big deal either way.
Court decided yesterday that Muthana is *not* a citizen, and will not be allowed back into the US. It all came down to the official notification to the UN of her father’s end of tenure as a diplomat; it wasn’t received until four months after Muthana was born. Additionally, her family will not be allowed to send her money to support herself, as funding terrorism is against our laws. They can send her clothing only.
As an aside, I read Buzzfeed’s article that they wrote on her years ago back in 2015, just after she!d fled to Syria, and my takeaway is that Muthana is a real piece of work with loyalty to NOBODY including her own family. Good riddance.
I actually sympathize with her because she was so young when she joined ISIS. Young and stupid often go together, and many young people desperately want their lives to have meaning and search to make it so. That said, Hoda Muthana was extraordinarily stupid, and extraordinarily disloyal to the country that she had called home all her life. SHE decided that ISIS would be her cause. SHE embraced violence, and especially violence against Americans. So I have no problem with the United States denying that she was ever a citizen and denying her entry now. If she were to return, I would want her to go to prison for the things she did. Young and stupid as she was, her actions should have consequences. She gave her life meaning, a life lesson to other teens who are unhappy and disaffected. The lesson is that actions have consequences.
If she is allowed back and deemed a citizen, she should be executed for treason. If she's not deemed a citizen she shouldn't be allowed back and imprisoned or executed for terrorism.
I actually sympathize with her because she was so young when she joined ISIS. Young and stupid often go together, and many young people desperately want their lives to have meaning and search to make it so. That said, Hoda Muthana was extraordinarily stupid, and extraordinarily disloyal to the country that she had called home all her life. SHE decided that ISIS would be her cause. SHE embraced violence, and especially violence against Americans. So I have no problem with the United States denying that she was ever a citizen and denying her entry now. If she were to return, I would want her to go to prison for the things she did. Young and stupid as she was, her actions should have consequences. She gave her life meaning, a life lesson to other teens who are unhappy and disaffected. The lesson is that actions have consequences.
Yep. And she only saw the "light" when the walls were closing in around her and ISIS was on its last legs That's not a true change of heart in my view. And, in any case, why take the risk with this Jihadi? It would be one thing if she was kidnapped and forced into that way of life and later had Stockholm syndrome. But she VOLUNTARILY decided to join a terrorist organization and lay with terrorists. Someone that susceptible to such nonsense is someone I don't want in my country. Ever.
I also saw how smug she was against President Trump on an interview with ABC News, saying that POTUS needs to go back and learn the law as she has a right to be here That kind of leftist resistance attitude only reinforced to me that she doesn't belong.
With a scourge such as ISIS and other World Court designated terrorist organizations, there should also be a designated or universal way of dealing with their members regardless of citizenship.
Once coming under that terrorist designation, even if only by fringe affiliation, a member should then fall under some form of world-wide accepted guidelines subject to a rule of law akin to the Geneva Convention to protect their rights, but also some form of prosecutorial system that is universally applied.
Some countries will welcome them back as heroes for a cause and others will struggle with how to deal with them never having been charged with a crime in their own country and having no option but to treat them as merely "returning from a vacation abroad citizens."
There should be no margin of difference between those who merely "baked bread", served as concubines, or otherwise aided the terrorists from those who were actual combatants.
The "old" tenets of lending aid and comfort to the enemy had meaning back in the day …. so to should it today.
I agree with you here. We make little distinction among our own veterans, most of whom served in support roles to our combatants. Without them, the combatants would not be able to do their work, so they matter and are critical in the effort and should be treated the same. Maybe we could make a distinction with wives though.
Anyhow, in this case it is and should be only about citizenship. If she is a US citizen she gets to come back regardless of what she did (and face the music as required). Otherwise we have no duty or moral obligation to allow her back in.
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That's not a true change of heart in my view. And, in any case, why take the risk with this Jihadi? It would be one thing if she was kidnapped and forced into that way of life and later had Stockholm syndrome. But she VOLUNTARILY decided to join a terrorist organization and lay with terrorists. Someone that susceptible to such nonsense is someone I don't want in my country. Ever.
That kind of leftist resistance attitude only reinforced to me that she doesn't belong.
