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Old 11-13-2018, 06:06 AM
 
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These snakes will stop at nothing to manipulate people. It's really quite scary.

Trump's original statement involved concern for ballots showing up out of nowhere, so he wanted to proceed with caution. Seems like a pretty sensible thing to do since those ballots were unaccounted for! Nowhere in his statement did he call out the military, or veterans specifically (read second paragraph of linked article). The unaccounted ballots were general public ballots, not limited to just military members.

But no, the media goes ahead in their usual skeevy fashion, framing military troops and veterans as victims. This is a classic example of how the media can be factually correct, but twist the context in ways to manipulate the reader.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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Hopefully the majority of sane people, military and civilians, are on to the fake news media and know that anything they say is propaganda.

We know that there are few Presidents who have been as supportive of our military as President Trump has.

The leftist fake news media hates our military yet they use them to push their agenda. Disgusting.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:28 AM
 
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Hopefully the majority of sane people, military and civilians, are on to the fake news media and know that anything they say is propaganda.

We know that there are few Presidents who have been as supportive of our military as President Trump has.

The leftist fake news media hates our military yet they use them to push their agenda. Disgusting.
To be fair, Trump's approval rating among military members has declined somewhat in recent months from ~46% to ~43%, but is still much higher than it was under Obama at 36%.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...ew-poll-shows/
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2...es-his-legacy/

But yes, I agree, the bigger issue here is how the media frames certain groups for political reasons. It's really obvious in this case.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:32 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b044bbb1a783bf

These snakes will stop at nothing to manipulate people. It's really quite scary.

Trump's original statement involved concern for ballots showing up out of nowhere, so he wanted to proceed with caution. Seems like a pretty sensible thing to do since those ballots were unaccounted for! Nowhere in his statement did he call out the military, or veterans specifically (read second paragraph of linked article). The unaccounted ballots were general public ballots, not limited to just military members.

But no, the media goes ahead in their usual skeevy fashion, framing military troops and veterans as victims. This is a classic example of how the media can be factually correct, but twist the context in ways to manipulate the reader.


And in his usual skeezy fashion, nowhere did Trump's original statement contain a shred of factual evidence supporting his otherwise baseless allegation that “An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!”.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Trump is doing the undermining of the military vote all by himself.

Claims he backs the Military, then the latest VA problems show up.

Trump does not go to honor the Dead of WWI because of rain, how stupid was that.

Trump does not go to Arlington Cemetery yesterday. How stupid was that.


Makes statements on voting in Fla. and wants to cut off absentee ballots.


Many other statements all said by Trump via twitter and his own actions.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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And in his usual skeezy fashion, nowhere did Trump's original statement contain a shred of factual evidence supporting his otherwise baseless allegation that “An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!”.
Trump was responding to calls from the governor for a law enforcement investigation of unaccounted for ballots. Naturally he is taking the side of the republican governor, as you would expect, but it is based on what is actually happening down there.

Trump and Scott are both right to question these ballots that showed up out of nowhere, most of which are presumably democratic leaning as they are in democratic strongholds.

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/s...accounted-for-
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:42 AM
 
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Trump is doing the undermining of the military vote all by himself.

Claims he backs the Military, then the latest VA problems show up.

Trump does not go to honor the Dead of WWI because of rain, how stupid was that.

Trump does not go to Arlington Cemetery yesterday. How stupid was that.


Makes statements on voting in Fla. and wants to cut off absentee ballots.


Many other statements all said by Trump via twitter and his own actions.
Those bone spurs are acting up!
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: North America
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Expanded the benefits under the VA - good

Not expanding IT to handle it - stupid.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:47 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by ryanst530 View Post
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b044bbb1a783bf

These snakes will stop at nothing to manipulate people. It's really quite scary.

Trump's original statement involved concern for ballots showing up out of nowhere, so he wanted to proceed with caution. Seems like a pretty sensible thing to do since those ballots were unaccounted for! Nowhere in his statement did he call out the military, or veterans specifically (read second paragraph of linked article). The unaccounted ballots were general public ballots, not limited to just military members.

But no, the media goes ahead in their usual skeevy fashion, framing military troops and veterans as victims. This is a classic example of how the media can be factually correct, but twist the context in ways to manipulate the reader.
The Media is being dishonest.
The vote is not held up for Military ballots to arrive.
Fact is many of the Military ballots are never opened.
If the spread is greater than the ballots will flip, they are preserved.
Only very very very tight elections, do the military ballots come into effect. Then it is counted untl the margin is greater than the ballots left and then stopped.


When stationed in Germany for 5 years, my mom & dad were only allowed to vote in the President election, because he was not a resident of any state, while residing in Germany.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump was responding to calls from the governor for a law enforcement investigation of unaccounted for ballots. Naturally he is taking the side of the republican governor, as you would expect, but it is based on what is actually happening down there.

Trump and Scott are both right to question these ballots that showed up out of nowhere, most of which are presumably democratic leaning as they are in democratic strongholds.

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/s...accounted-for-
According to the article these are provisional ballots, they didn't show up out of nowhere. Scotts claims of fraud are unsubstantiated and he needs to take down his rhetoric a notch.
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