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Old 10-06-2016, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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George W. Bush got us into the worst economic mess in decades. During the last few months of his presidency we were losing seven hundred thousand jobs a month. He couldn't even testify before Congress without Cheney's assistance.

McCain had the darling of the Tea party as his VP candidate. When interviewed Palin could not demonstrate a command of the issues. There was one report that she didn't even know what the Fed was. McCain was old and Palin would have been next in line.

Romney was another rich mans son. Usually the son's talent and drive don't match the father's. I won't however put him in the same class as Bush and Palin. We can trust that the middle class would not have done well with Romney.

Now we have Trump running. You Republicans must admit that his performance was **** poor the other night. He's nothing but a slick salesman with a couple of good ideas about trade but nothing more than that.

It's time for you to think about who you are making the most powerful person on Earth. FOX, Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh shouldn't be doing your thinking for you. It's very important that you think for yourselves and do some independent research on these people who you choose to lead. The jury is no longer out on your poor choices for President and Vice President.
Bush didn't get us into the economic mess, Congress did. Why post when you are ignorant on the issue?

maybe the repubs should elect someone who is a serial war mongering liar like Obama? oh wait they did they backed his twin in 2012.
Bailouts, keep us in never ending wars in the Middle East, manipulate the economy. These big government P.O.S. are all alike, just the handpicked winners and losers are different.
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Old 10-06-2016, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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For people who keep saying that Hillary has "no accomplishments":

1. Advocate for women and children. For nearly a quarter-century on the national forefront as First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State, Hillary has worked toward reform on women’s reproductive rights, establishing the importance of family values, and improving after-school programs.
Is that why she took bribes from the Saudis, a country that doesn't allow women to drive and punishes rape victims? To help women?

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2. Equal-pay proponent. As both an advocate and legislator, she is a stalwart on women’s rights to equal pay, and she remains so as a presidential candidate..
because women are too stupid to make their own agreements with a private enterprise so they need Hillarys help? Is that why?

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3. Women’s safety. Clinton’s role in creating the Justice Department’s Office on Violence Against Women underscores her advocacy for gender equality. She has also made the cause a significant Clinton Foundation priority.
You mean the Clinton Foundation that got over $10 million from the Saudis, a country that doesn't allow women to drive and punishes rape victims?

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4. 9/11 redevelopment. In the aftermath of September 11th, she worked closely with her senior Senate counterpart from New York, Sen. Charles Schumer, on securing $21.4 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment.
She stole property from a poor black church using eminent domain. The stolen property deal didn't pan out btw.

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5. Middle East ceasefire. In November 2012, Secretary of State Clinton brokered a ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas.
First off Israel created Hamas. The truce lasted less than 2 years.

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6. Iranian Nuclear Deal. As Secretary of State, she not only recognized the imperative of placating Iran’s nuclear ambitions, but also took proactive steps to begin negotiating a viable deal.
Iran can't even refine their own oil. Only someone foolish like Michele Bachmann would think Iran is only months away from nukes.

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7. Free-trade agreements. Secretary Clinton played a role in numerous U.S.-led bilateral trade agreements—most notably, efforts on the TPP and a deal brokered between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
It's not free trade, it's manages trade and it was done in secrecy. Why post when you are ignorant on the issue?

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8. Minimum wage. Both Clinton’s presidential platform and legislative record clearly identify her support for raising the federal minimum wage.
Oh cool another big government freak telling private enterprise how to run their business. Because government owns you. How has that worked out in the past?

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9. Climate Change. Alongside many of her Democratic counterparts, Clinton has championed the fight against climate change, both domestically and on a global scale.
You didn't say anything

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10. Human Rights. Hillary’s career has been marked by advocacy for human rights. In her concern as First Lady and Secretary of State especially, Clinton worked to ensure proper labor and sociopolitical protections around the world.
You mean the Clinton Foundation that got over $10 million from the Saudis, a country that doesn't allow women to drive and punishes rape victims? Yea thats who I want fighting for human rights someone who gets bribed to look the other way.

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11. Gun control. Her legislative record and decades of advocacy for highlight her views, which are in step with a majority of Americans.
Because an unarmed America is a safe America just ask Adolf Hitler and Joe Stalin
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Old 10-06-2016, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So someone that has a history of their enemies ending up dead, and has committed multiple known and proven felonies is the lesser evil than someone who says a few things you do not like?
Agreed. Bombs and drones can break my bones but names really, really hurt.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:00 AM
 
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Is that why she took bribes from the Saudis, a country that doesn't allow women to drive and punishes rape victims? To help women?

because women are too stupid to make their own agreements with a private enterprise so they need Hillarys help? Is that why?

You mean the Clinton Foundation that got over $10 million from the Saudis, a country that doesn't allow women to drive and punishes rape victims?

She stole property from a poor black church using eminent domain. The stolen property deal didn't pan out btw.

First off Israel created Hamas. The truce lasted less than 2 years.

Iran can't even refine their own oil. Only someone foolish like Michele Bachmann would think Iran is only months away from nukes.

It's not free trade, it's manages trade and it was done in secrecy. Why post when you are ignorant on the issue?

Oh cool another big government freak telling private enterprise how to run their business. Because government owns you. How has that worked out in the past?

You didn't say anything


You mean the Clinton Foundation that got over $10 million from the Saudis, a country that doesn't allow women to drive and punishes rape victims? Yea thats who I want fighting for human rights someone who gets bribed to look the other way.

Because an unarmed America is a safe America just ask Adolf Hitler and Joe Stalin
This post is kind of amazing, because every single "talking point" is completely made up. Why not just add "and Hillary had an affair with chimpanzees while robbing banks and slapping around babies and puppies".

Did you get this from Breitbart or one of those crazy websites? Her foundation has an A or A+ rating by all the ratings agencies, she had a 70% approval rating as Secretary of State (almost unprecedented), and then you sprinkle in random wacky claims like "Hillary is robbing black churches" and "the Saudis are bribing Hillary".
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This post is kind of amazing, because every single "talking point" is completely made up. Why not just add "and Hillary had an affair with chimpanzees while robbing banks and slapping around babies and puppies".
This post is amazing. Not one single shred of evidence in your post to rebuke what I posted. All because you said. Your post has no credibility.

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Did you get this from Breitbart or one of those crazy websites?
It's not about the website, it's about the issue. It's called the truth, You should try it.


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Her foundation has an A or A+ rating by all the ratings agencies
It is common knowledge to those without a twisted agenda that Hillary received $10 million from the Saudis. That you don't know it doesn't surprise me.


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she had a 70% approval rating as Secretary of State (almost unprecedented)
Is that why she stepped down in disgrace? Because she did a good job? She lied about Benghazi being about a video, then lied about not knowing about gun running, which is what got those Americans killed. He name is on the paperwork for hiring Marc Turi to run those weapons. lmao keep trying.

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and then you sprinkle in random wacky claims like "Hillary is robbing black churches" and
Wacky claims?

A few years later, the groundbreaking was begun for the urban renewal scheme which took the church’s land and demolished its building and that of other victims. There to take credit for the federal funding were US Senator and now presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy, Nassau County Executive Thomas Suozzi, and Town of North Hempstead Supervisor Jon Kaiman, together with other Democrat party cronies.

The New Cassel urban renewal scheme handed over the property of the church and others to developers who have seen fit to give Kaiman and the North Hempstead Democrats substantial contributions as reported by Newsday. Of course, there is no connection. The land will supposedly become a bank and a chain drugstore. One developer in the New Cassel redevelopment scheme was just arrested for passing bad checks, not to the Democrat officeholders I presume.

One of the properties was built in such a substandard way that the still uncompleted building is already sinking.

Presidential Candidate Defended Black Church Dispossessed By Eminent Domain - GroundReport


What's it like to be uninformed?

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"the Saudis are bribing Hillary".
It is common knowledge to those without a twisted agenda that Hillary received $10 million from the Saudis. That you don't know it doesn't surprise me.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:55 AM
 
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Because Hillary in my opinion is the lesser of two evils.


Those that think Trump is so bad that it is better to chose one that has caused major world problems that are growing still and is steeped in corruption and criminal behavior is beyond preposterous.
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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George W. Bush got us into the worst economic mess in decades. During the last few months of his presidency we were losing seven hundred thousand jobs a month. He couldn't even testify before Congress without Cheney's assistance.

McCain had the darling of the Tea party as his VP candidate. When interviewed Palin could not demonstrate a command of the issues. There was one report that she didn't even know what the Fed was. McCain was old and Palin would have been next in line.

Romney was another rich mans son. Usually the son's talent and drive don't match the father's. I won't however put him in the same class as Bush and Palin. We can trust that the middle class would not have done well with Romney.

Now we have Trump running. You Republicans must admit that his performance was **** poor the other night. He's nothing but a slick salesman with a couple of good ideas about trade but nothing more than that.

It's time for you to think about who you are making the most powerful person on Earth. FOX, Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh shouldn't be doing your thinking for you. It's very important that you think for yourselves and do some independent research on these people who you choose to lead. The jury is no longer out on your poor choices for President and Vice President.




You impress me as someone who outsources their thought process.


Bush did not get us into an economic mess.


Bush failed to do enough to reverse Clinton's bankster friendly/anti-worker initiatives such as unregulated derivatives, the repeal of Glass-Steigal, mandated GSE bundling of mortgages into the new unregulated derivatives, NAFTA and the 2000 China Trade Act.


Together, these favors to the 0.1% donor class insured large numbers of mortgage holders would lose their ability to make their monthly payments, defaulted mortgages would become the toxic assets in unregulated (i.e.,over leveraged) derivatives and the banks holding these financial instruments would be too large to fail.


Once the Clinton financial house of cards came tumbling down, those directly responsible, the string pullers, would be rewarded with even more money confiscated from earners so that they could then buy up assets lost, through no fault of their own, by working Americans, only now at fire sale prices.


With everything many people worked their entire lives to accumulate transferred from ordinary workers to the already obscenely wealthy, these same workers now find themselves repurchasing everything they lost at today's full retail prices.


With that out of the way...


From the beginning, the Tea Party movement understood that third party candidates will never win, so we made our movement's primary objective the hostile take over of the Republican Party.


Trump today is the expressed rejection of sixteen other Republican candidates who were largely owned and controlled by the Republican Party elite and the 0.1% donor class that enjoys their undivided attention.


What those of us who support Trump are, the producers and earners who fight the wars and pay the bills, make us unrepresentable in a nation that allows office holders to purchase votes with earner's income tax revenue and ever increasing debt.


Since one can't bribe someone with their own money or future financial obligation, there is nothing the political class can offer us to leverage our support, so they do what they have to do.


They double-down on politically marginalizing us.


It's their only option since we cannot accept the system that effectively makes us a permanent financial slave class to the undertaxed uber-wealthy and the underworked recipient class.


And know this, that turning your back on donors and mooches in America is political suicide.


Besides, they really don't need our cooperation anyway since we are compelled by law to pony up our earnings and, should the need once again arise, report for military duty.


So who cares what we think or what we want if enough votes can be mustered against us to make our demands of no consequence?


Trump has been described by Michael Moore as a human Molotov cocktail and he is not far off on this point.


We are willing to destroy the Republican Party if they will not bend.
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Old 10-07-2016, 04:05 AM
 
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I would venture to say if Trump was elected he would bury us in debt. He can't even run his own finances without bankrupting or putting himself in debt. Why won't he show his taxes? Many people who are under audit have done it before. When does he plan to show his taxes? After the election? I don't understand why people don't research this clown. He has enough dirt on himself. He is a rich brat who never worked for anyone. He never sacrificed anything, he doesn't want a higher minimum wage, in fact he wants no minimum wage. Republicans are only interested in perpetuating corporate welfare. They don't care about working people.Trump couldn't even serve his country. Pathetic!
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