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So you think because a land bridge no longer exists that proves man made global warming is a hoax? That's your "evidence"? LOL!!! Oh god you need to educate yorself. You guys are a never ending source of entertainment!
Next time just make your point rather than waste time, why is it so hard for people to just admit they made a mistake and move on.
If I understand your argument correctly you're making the case that 135 years is statistically irrelevant, anything we do to the earth in that time period is meaningless because it's a short period of time. The main argument by scientist is that this temperature change is occurring in a short period of time, not thousands of years, not millions but around a century, that is very significant coupled with the correlation between CO2 and temperature increase, that sure makes a rather strong case.
Go look at the chart I posted from the EPA, do you see the history between temperature increase and CO2 levels?
CO2 is correlated to population growth which is correlated to temperature increase. So what? There has always been CO2 in the atmosphere; in fact it is necessary for plant life. And there is no point at which CO2 does not trap heat, so more or less CO2 in the atmosphere is almost irrelevant. So global warming is man made ie. We are warming the planet. But it is not getting warmer because of what we are burning ie.Fossil fuels. It is getting warmer because we are producing heat. Heating a house in the winter time, the heat has to go somewhere. And what difference does it make whether we burn coal or we heat our house using an electric space heater? Heat is heat.
CO2 is correlated to population growth which is correlated to temperature increase. So what? There has always been CO2 in the atmosphere; in fact it is necessary for plant life. And there is no point at which CO2 does not trap heat, so more or less CO2 in the atmosphere is almost irrelevant. So global warming is man made ie. We are warming the planet. But it is not getting warmer because of what we are burning ie.Fossil fuels. It is getting warmer because we are producing heat. Heating a house in the winter time, the heat has to go somewhere. And what difference does it make whether we burn coal or we heat our house using an electric space heater? Heat is heat.
Suddenly burning fossil fuels and trees that have stored CO2 for thousands and millions of years generates massive increases in CO2. There is also a direct correlation between temperature increases and CO2 levels indicated in the link below. Heat that would normally be passed through our atmosphere is being captured in the oceans and land.
Population alone doesn't increase temperature it's our fossil fuel habits, that heat generated warming a house stays here in increased amounts because of higher levels of CO2.
If you don't believe that CO2 is a heat trapping gas there is nothing else to discuss.
So you think because a land bridge no longer exists that proves man made global warming is a hoax? That's your "evidence"? LOL!!! Oh god you need to educate yorself. You guys are a never ending source of entertainment!
The pace of global sea level rise almost doubled from 1.7 mm/year throughout most of the twentieth century to 3.2 mm/year since 1993.
You can`t have a cause and effect relationship if the effect predates the cause by a century.
Post glacial sea level rise is not as simple as you think....Sea level rose rapidly beginning about 20,000 years ago until about 8,000 years ago when it slowed drastically.... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Sea_Level.png Since then it has been rising slowly.
Recently it has been speeding up....What do you suppose is causing this recent rate increase?
Post glacial sea level rise is not as simple as you think....Sea level rose rapidly beginning about 20,000 years ago until about 8,000 years ago when it slowed drastically.... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Sea_Level.png Since then it has been rising slowly.
Recently it has been speeding up....What do you suppose is causing this recent rate increase?
Not sure, but I think it might be the same thing that caused the Little Ice Age to end.
The recent trend is linear, starts about 1820 and seems unaffected by CO 2 levels.
You can`t have a cause and effect relationship if the effect predates the cause by a century.
I appreciate your attempt to divert away from what I requested but this post has nothing to do with what I asked. Apparently you either did not read or chose to ignore my previous posts so I'll repeat what I've said one last time.
Everyone agrees that the earth has gone through countless geological and climactic changes over its 4.5 billion year history. It continues to this day. I'll repeat: NO ONE DENIES THAT. However, data collected by thousands of accredited climate scientists (you know, the guys that research this stuff) points to man's dumping of large amounts of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere as being the cause of the present warming trend that's going on right now. Were it not for that, we would be continuing a cooling phase that started years ago.
Deniers like yourself continue to claim that this data is part of some worldwide hoax perpetrated by climate scientists and "big government". My challenge to you is to provide evidence to back up your assertions. Show us evidence of this hoax. To date not one of you have been able to provide it.
Some climate date measurements that no one can deny:
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There are two major contributing factors, maybe three depending on how you count everything, to 2015 being the warmest year. The main factor is, of course, global warming. The Earth’s surface temperature is going up because of the Greenhouse Effect, and along with that, we are seeing remarkable climate disruption, including floods, other inclement weather, and a host of problems. On top of this, the last part of 2015 saw a strong El Niño, the strongest recorded in historic documents. This weather event, which involves the departure of ocean-stored heat in the Pacific into the atmosphere, is continuing, though it will likely peak soon and begin to decline (but see below). That is all we need, really, to explain 2015, but there may be a third factor that overlaps with those two worth singling out. Some areas of the world’s oceans, including parts of the Atlantic and the Pacific (outside the usual Pacific El Niño warming effect), have been exceptionally warm on the surface. This is really just part of the whole anthropogenic global warming thing, but seems more extreme this year. In other words, it seems as though the ocean is putting more stored heat into the atmosphere than just that part that El Niño contributes, and the surface temperature measurements include sea surface temperature.
The Lack Of Greenhouse Gases
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Is the Earth really in danger of HEATING UP from "Greenhouse gases"?
Let us look at our neighbor, which does not have an atmosphere.
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The lunar surface (equator) -
minimum : 100 K (-279.67 F)
maximum : 390 K ( 242.33 F)
By observation, one may note that despite almost equal energy input from the Sun, the Earth enjoys a substantial COOLING effect (-60K) from the presence of its atmosphere.
“A tiny amount of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, like methane and water vapour, keep the Earth’s surface 30°Celsius (54°F) warmer than it would be without them. We have added 42% more CO2 but that doesn't mean the temperature will go up by 42% too.”
WAIT - the Earth with atmosphere is 60° K cooler than the Moon without an atmosphere.
But they’re saying the greenhouse gases are keeping us 30 K warmer (K and C are the same interval), so we should be 90 K cooler without the “greenhouse” gases.
(Huh?)
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Much of the radiation from the Earth is emitted by the atmosphere, not the Earth's surface. Based on albedo, the atmosphere is definitely COOLING the planet's surface. (Earth is 60° K cooler than the Moon, despite almost equal insolation)
Earth’s albedo is about 0.30, while the Moon’s albedo is only about 0.11.
ALBEDO - The fraction of incident electromagnetic radiation reflected by a surface, especially of a celestial body.
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Much of the radiation from the Earth is emitted by the atmosphere, not the Earth's surface. Based on albedo, the atmosphere is definitely COOLING the planet's surface. (Earth is 60° K cooler than the Moon, despite almost equal insolation)
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