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Old 10-18-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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Orbital forcing of tree-ring data : Nature Climate Change : Nature Publishing Group


Orbital forcing of tree-ring data
These findings, together with the missing orbital signature in published dendrochronological records, suggest that large-scale near-surface air-temperature reconstructions9, 10, 11, 12, 13 relying on tree-ring data may underestimate pre-instrumental temperatures including warmth during Medieval and Roman times.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I'm sure the AGW alarmists will show how this is even more proof that man is causing global warming today.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Evidently the are ignoring this thread.

guess they dont like it when the Peer review produces hard science that thwarts the talking points.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Evidently the are ignoring this thread.

guess they dont like it when the Peer review produces hard science that thwarts the talking points.
And this is exactly why global warming is a controversy. Not all scientists agree with the liberal party line on global warming. All agree it's happening but man's contribution is debatable.

And before somebody brings evolution into this, all scientists pretty much believe evolution so these are two completely different topics.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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And this is exactly why global warming is a controversy. Not all scientists agree with the liberal party line on global warming. All agree it's happening but man's contribution is debatable.

And before somebody brings evolution into this, all scientists pretty much believe evolution so these are two completely different topics.
gasp!

you mean not all scientists buy the CAGW liberal party line?

oh my.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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the church of CAGW is ignoring this so they can continue to claim there is no science that debunks their theory.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Orbital forcing of tree-ring data : Nature Climate Change : Nature Publishing Group


Orbital forcing of tree-ring data
These findings, together with the missing orbital signature in published dendrochronological records, suggest that large-scale near-surface air-temperature reconstructions9, 10, 11, 12, 13 relying on tree-ring data may underestimate pre-instrumental temperatures including warmth during Medieval and Roman times.
Not exactly news.

All you had to do is read Roman trade documents to know that the Romans imported wine from England.

Grapes? In England? How bizarre! No, how warm. It was freaking hot back then.

Or, you could read English medical texts.

It got cold, but then it warmed up again, and in the Medieval Period, England was plagued by...

....mosquitoes and malaria.

That's right. When you're reading these texts you'll see references to certain types of fevers called tertiary fevers and quaternary fevers. That is descriptive of the number of days before the fever breaks. So if you have a quaternary fever, you have a fever for four days, and then it breaks for four days and then right back into four days of fever. You can read about that in works by William Lilly and others from the 1650s.

That was due to the different strains of malaria.

At one point 1 in 3 Britons had malaria or were carriers.

What happened? The Little Ice Age came in the late 1600s and killed off all of the mosquitoes.

They never came back to England.

But yeah, the global warming pukes are just total morons. It would just kill them to make an attempt to understand the words "cycle" or "cyclical."

If they could do that, then maybe there's hope I can get them to comprehend the meaning of the phrase...

...."Inter-Glacial Warming Period."

Anyway, when the temperature of the Atlantic Ocean gets to be 100°F on a regular basis, like it was 50 Million years ago, someone let me know, and maybe I'll actually think about getting worried.

Glad I didn't drink the AGW Kool-Aid...

Mircea
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