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Old 12-16-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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Short mention in the budget article...

Shutdown averted: Deal reached on $1T omnibus package

I know it's only the 100W bulbs for this year. I don't want to go there.
They didn’t overturn the ban. All they did was defund any enforcement.

How many manufacturers and retailers are going to want to keep making or selling a product that is still technically illegal?

And I quote James Madison
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What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed?
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Hey, that's cool. If CFLs can defeat Incandescents in the marketplace, so be it.
When it comes to businesses making a choice in their best fiscal interests, they've already done that. How common is it to find offices and stores still using incandescent bulbs?

As for me, I switched in 2004, and feel absolutely no need to go back.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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When it comes to businesses making a choice in their best fiscal interests, they've already done that. How common is it to find offices and stores still using incandescent bulbs?

As for me, I switched in 2004, and feel absolutely no need to go back.
I do not know. I have not done a survey, casual or otherwise.

If what you imply is true, and I have little reason to doubt it, I suspect they are using true flourescents- the large, tube kind- rarther than CFLs.

Big difference.

That is how my office is and indeed every office I have ever worked in. I could not type this response to you were there CFLs here. While that notion undoubtedly pleases you, I have to be able to see as I am not ready for glasses yet. Consequently, I do not use CFLs very much. I do not like them.

I am glad you like your CFLs. Might earn you a fractional carbon credit for all that premium gas you burn in your BMW.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: United State of Texas
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The light from CFL bulbs is simply not acceptable. I'm hoping LED bulbs will be better.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Between eating tuna and having amalgam fillings, I have quite enough mercury in my life. (too much, actually). So I will gleefully pass on the CFLs.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I do not know. I have not done a survey, casual or otherwise.

If what you imply is true, and I have little reason to doubt it, I suspect they are using true flourescents- the large, tube kind- rarther than CFLs.

Big difference.

That is how my office is and indeed every office I have ever worked in. I could not type this response to you were there CFLs here. While that notion undoubtedly pleases you, I have to be able to see as I am not ready for glasses yet. Consequently, I do not use CFLs very much. I do not like them.

I am glad you like your CFLs. Might earn you a fractional carbon credit for all that premium gas you burn in your BMW.
Don't worry about my CFLs, my BMW and me. Worry about your arguments, and mine. Thank you.

Now, all the evidence you need is to step out of your comfort zone and start looking. Its all around you. So what if they might not be using "compact" FLs, the fact is they aren't using incandescents. Are they?
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Hey, thanks for that link!

I'll have to check my kelvins..LOL
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Disagree with the anti abortion part. Agree with stopping the ban on incandescent bulbs. Without 100-200-300 watt incandescents I would have to heat my living room some other way.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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Between eating tuna and having amalgam fillings, I have quite enough mercury in my life. (too much, actually). So I will gleefully pass on the CFLs.

20yrsinBranson
I have been storing the old bulbs for years. There is no way i will use those nasty new things they call efficient.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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Don't worry about my CFLs, my BMW and me. Worry about your arguments, and mine. Thank you.

Now, all the evidence you need is to step out of your comfort zone and start looking. Its all around you. So what if they might not be using "compact" FLs, the fact is they aren't using incandescents. Are they?
The thread is about Incandescent Light Bulbs and Compact Flourescent Light Bulbs (CFLs).

Your "evidence" is based on Tube Fluorescent Bulbs, which are something quite different.

The fact that offices and stores use them rather than indandescents is irrelevant. Its been that way for decades. I use them in my workshop. If you want to outfit your house and the garage that holds the BMW with them, I ain't gonna stop you.

Stick to the topic lest I am forced to expose your dishonesty again. I am building up quite a collection.
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