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Reagan was actually willing to compromise on raising taxes, doing it 11 times during his 8 years in office. Who ever last night's GOP presidential candidates were….they were not following in the footsteps of their revered Father, Ronald Maximus. Saying that you would carefully consider the need to raise revenues through new taxation or increased tax rates is not similar to aiding and abetting communists or Islamic extremists…..and yet, all Republican presidential candidates for president today think that it is. That's extreme. That is not reasonable. That is fringe thinking.
It is not clear whether GOP candidates must offer their firstborn as security to Grover before being cleared to become a "legitimate" GOP candidate…..but judging by the eagerness of GOP candidates to denounce any new forms of revenue, it wouldn't be shocking if it were true.
What, then, do we have when we consider those 8 GOP candidates in Iowa last night? We have an institutional rejection of democracy as compromise….and we have wannabe-leaders who reject, or simply ignore, a reality based perspective of….reality.
In other words…..stubborn and stupid.
Stiffnecked Morons (http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/blog_mass_destruction/2011/08/12/stiffnecked-morons/ID=16147/ - broken link)
These people need to ride into the sunset and give this nation a chance to bounce back. They are the oppressors.
It is amazing and sad to me that anyone would associate not raising taxes with being "extreme", "not reasonable" and "fringe thinking." As you point out, taxes have been raised and raised and raised yet the spending always outpaces the revenue. The problem is so clear yet the Democrats refuse to see it because they can't afford to upset their base...many of those with their hands in the government pocket.
I know it is a Republican talking point but that doesn't change the validity of the statement. We have a spending problem not a tax rate problem. Raising taxes on the rich beyond what they already pay is just a mindlessly stupid non-answer to the problem...a class warfare "solution", not an intelligent business solution. There is no tax increase that will even remotely close the deficit we have now much less cut the debt.
Cut the wasteful spending first before anything else. Don't tell me about cutting entitlements until every last penny of every last budget line, no matter how trivial the amount, is cut out of the budget. Then, make everyone contribute something. That half the population pays nothing in federal tax is unbelievable and unacceptable. Everyone should pay something so that everyone has an investment in wanting Washington to do its job, nevermind that it is only fair. Next, give business everything they claim they need to spur jobs here and bring jobs back from overseas....whatever they need. Get unemployment down. Get people working. Broaden the base, increase revenue not tax rates. Then balance the budget and reform the programs so they work in perpetuity. Forget raising taxes in return for spending cuts. Cut the spending and balance the budget!
Reagan was actually willing to compromise on raising taxes, doing it 11 times during his 8 years in office.
The reality is that after the S&P downgrade that mantra ("We won't raise taxes") will be reduced to nothing more than a talking point. I'll be shocked if the GOP are stupid enough to try and protect Bush's tax cuts again, and in REALITY if we have a GOP president he will have to raise taxes.
All polls show the majority of Americans overwhelmingly believe we should raise taxes, and close corporate looholes in order to address our deficit problems. Polls also show a majority of Americans hold the republicans responsible for the downgrade and the conflict leading up to the downgrade.
S&P's recent actions were the b*tch slap the GOP needed and frankly deserved. They can continue to campaign on this BS, but they will be unable to follow through on it given the opportunity to govern again.
Never raise taxes, huh? Whoever wins this nod, and if they actually take the White House, make sure you hold them to that.
I can see Romney raises taxes. He may not admit it during the election, but it wouldn't surprise me if he endorses this idea. Who he raises it on is a different question.
The reality is that after the S&P downgrade that mantra ("We won't raise taxes") will be reduced to nothing more than a talking point. I'll be shocked if the GOP are stupid enough to try and protect Bush's tax cuts again, and in REALITY if we have a GOP president he will have to raise taxes.
All polls show the majority of Americans overwhelmingly believe we should raise taxes, and close corporate looholes in order to address our deficit problems. Polls also show a majority of Americans hold the republicans responsible for the downgrade and the conflict leading up to the downgrade.
S&P's recent actions were the b*tch slap the GOP needed and frankly deserved. They can continue to campaign on this BS, but they will be unable to follow through on it given the opportunity to govern again.
That's because of all of the complete and total lying failures on your side. Your side just keeps on lying at every chance they get.
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Chambers added, however, that $4 trillion in savings, "depending on whether it was frontloaded or backloaded, is not going to do the trick in terms of stabilizing the U.S. government debt-to-GDP ratio.
Chambers noted that, according to the International Monetary Fund, the U.S. government would have to come up with savings of about 7.5 percent of its gross domestic product to actually stabilize its debt-to-GDP ratio.
S&P: Deficit cuts of $4 trillion a good start - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/p-u-deficit-cuts-4-trillion-good-downpayment-174600124.html - broken link)
That's losing $1.125 trillion a year there chief.
Keep lying and repeating your epic fail's talking points.
The reality is that after the S&P downgrade that mantra ("We won't raise taxes") will be reduced to nothing more than a talking point. I'll be shocked if the GOP are stupid enough to try and protect Bush's tax cuts again, and in REALITY if we have a GOP president he will have to raise taxes.
All polls show the majority of Americans overwhelmingly believe we should raise taxes, and close corporate looholes in order to address our deficit problems. Polls also show a majority of Americans hold the republicans responsible for the downgrade and the conflict leading up to the downgrade.
S&P's recent actions were the b*tch slap the GOP needed and frankly deserved. They can continue to campaign on this BS, but they will be unable to follow through on it given the opportunity to govern again.
It is amazing and sad to me that anyone would associate not raising taxes with being "extreme", "not reasonable" and "fringe thinking." As you point out, taxes have been raised and raised and raised yet the spending always outpaces the revenue. The problem is so clear yet the Democrats refuse to see it because they can't afford to upset their base...many of those with their hands in the government pocket.
I know it is a Republican talking point but that doesn't change the validity of the statement. We have a spending problem not a tax rate problem. Raising taxes on the rich beyond what they already pay is just a mindlessly stupid non-answer to the problem...a class warfare "solution", not an intelligent business solution. There is no tax increase that will even remotely close the deficit we have now much less cut the debt.
Cut the wasteful spending first before anything else. Don't tell me about cutting entitlements until every last penny of every last budget line, no matter how trivial the amount, is cut out of the budget. Then, make everyone contribute something. That half the population pays nothing in federal tax is unbelievable and unacceptable. Everyone should pay something so that everyone has an investment in wanting Washington to do its job, nevermind that it is only fair. Next, give business everything they claim they need to spur jobs here and bring jobs back from overseas....whatever they need. Get unemployment down. Get people working. Broaden the base, increase revenue not tax rates. Then balance the budget and reform the programs so they work in perpetuity. Forget raising taxes in return for spending cuts. Cut the spending and balance the budget!
But isn't that "raising taxes", and precisely what all the candidates are pledging Not to do? It certainly IS raising them on the half that pays nothing.
Was the pledge to not raise them on the upper middle class and the wealthy, or to not raise them on ANYONE? I think it was the latter, but in practice it seems it will be the former?
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That Teabanging crew at the IMF and S & P.
