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Old 10-02-2023, 11:53 AM
 
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Courage is needed nowadays:

https://brownstone.org/articles/trut...ocratic-cabal/

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Truth-speaking (or truth-telling) is not the same as truth. At least not in the familiar sense of a correspondence between what is stated and the state of affairs to which it corresponds – the so-called correspondence theory of truth. Or, for that matter, the coherence theory of truth, which judges the truth of statements by the criterion of whether it coheres with the body of statements within which it functions.
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:47 AM
 
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Our lying eyes are not to be believed:

https://brownstone.org/articles/dont...ur-lying-eyes/

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If you have not yet read the book 1984 by George Orwell, you absolutely must.

I loathed that novel when I read it as a teen, because I hated the entire idea of an authoritarian government controlling its people so deftly. The dystopian world it described was just so depressing, so wrong, from the first page to the last. And yet, here we are, almost 75 years after Orwell first penned the book, and we see how that hellish science fiction novel is now playing out before us.
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Old 10-03-2023, 11:08 AM
 
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If you think Orwell was prophetic, read Gurdjieff. More insightful and many levels higher.
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Old 10-03-2023, 11:18 AM
 
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If you think Orwell was prophetic, read Gurdjieff. More insightful and many levels higher.
I did many years ago, but have forgotten the book, article or passages you have in mind. Kindly remind us.
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Old 10-03-2023, 02:17 PM
 
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Old 10-18-2023, 02:14 PM
 
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I always thought Guardjieff was pretty crazy. His system couldn't really get you anywhere. I would go w/ Thoreau, who said some things on the level of Buddha. Simple, and straight to the point.
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Old 10-21-2023, 06:30 AM
 
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I always thought Guardjieff was pretty crazy. His system couldn't really get you anywhere. I would go w/ Thoreau, who said some things on the level of Buddha. Simple, and straight to the point.
Do you mean this? (Quotes off the internet attributing to people are sometimes not true!):

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It takes two to speak the truth: one to speak, and another to hear.
That is indeed truth speaking. Both require wisdom and an illuminated mind.
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Old 10-25-2023, 03:09 PM
 
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Truth? Embrace your own definition and be prepared to accept the consequences.
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Old 10-27-2023, 12:59 PM
 
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I always thought Guardjieff was pretty crazy. His system couldn't really get you anywhere. I would go w/ Thoreau, who said some things on the level of Buddha. Simple, and straight to the point.
Amen. Thoreau is one of my major interests, and he is astoundingly perceptive and prescient. I read him, and about him, again and again and again.

Ditto re: Gurdjieff. I really tried to give Gurdjieff and Ouspensky the benefit of the doubt, but I gave up. It may not be a fair analogy, but the Gurdjieff/Ouspensky cult always reminded me of Scientology.

As it happens, I happen to be reading 1984 on my Kindle right now.
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Old 10-29-2023, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Southern New England
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H.D.T. paraphrased a bit-

"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the sun still in them.
What is called resignation is confirmed desperation."

As posted earlier, simple and straightforward. The part about the sun being still in us feels good.
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