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Old 04-23-2023, 10:35 AM
 
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Every one in the world knows Mr. Carver has an Honorary Doctorate.
I think you’d be surprised at how many don’t know anything about that.

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You were insinuating that I am so ignorant that I don't know the difference, and that you think you are the only person who knows this commonly known trivia about Dr. Carver.
I insinuated nothing. Instead, I communicated my point very clearly with no insinuation necessary.

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Your comment was nothing more than an errant stroll down an inconsequential path and you know it.
You claimed something that was incorrect, and I corrected you. If you don’t wish to be corrected, don’t post things that require correction.
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Old 04-23-2023, 11:20 AM
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I think you’d be surprised at how many don’t know anything about that.



I insinuated nothing. Instead, I communicated my point very clearly with no insinuation necessary.


You claimed something that was incorrect, and I corrected you. If you don’t wish to be corrected, don’t post things that require correction.
This presents a perfect opportunity that should get this thread back on the rails. It is your opinion that the person in question should not be referred to as Dr. Knowing comes from Knowledge and knowledge is based on experience. I have been to the George Washington Carver National Monument site on many occasions. From my personal experience the Park's historical interpreters as well as guest scholars who present lectures there all refer to Mr. Carver as Dr. Carver. So it is not wrong to use the commonly used, Dr. Carver. If you had ever been there you would know this too.
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Old 04-23-2023, 11:27 AM
 
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Actions can be judged as right or wrong by its result and per the law in a civil society. Interpretation is always colored by personal bias, emotions, and conditioning.

Your beliefs are based on what you value. If your value changes, so will your belief. If i value money because I believe it can buy me love, and if I find out it does not, my belief will change.
How do you become sure that some action caused some result? You have to believe the law that it actually has in it the truth about what is right or wrong.
Saying my beliefs are based on what I value is a belief in itself. In your example you have to believe in the value of money first, not to mention belief in the concept of money and its utility.
Also, to abstract, in your example, belief x because belief y. Belief y false, therefore belief x false too, because it was dependent on belief y being true for its existence.
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Your second question is unclear to me. But to answer your first, we make observations. For example, eating with one's mouth open or closed. You decide that it is disgusting and prefer to eat with your mouth closed. You do it every day which can be recorded. To what end? To live your life the way you prefer.

But if you are considering how to impose it on others, that is different.
We have to believe our observations to base some other ideas off of them. This end about living according to preferences is just another preference.
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Old 04-23-2023, 12:10 PM
 
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This presents a perfect opportunity that should get this thread back on the rails. It is your opinion that the person in question should not be referred to as Dr. Knowing comes from Knowledge and knowledge is based on experience. I have been to the George Washington Carver National Monument site on many occasions. From my personal experience the Park's historical interpreters as well as guest scholars who present lectures there all refer to Mr. Carver as Dr. Carver. So it is not wrong to use the commonly used, Dr. Carver. If you had ever been there you would know this too.
And experience is based on your interaction with the world which you interpret through your beliefs and through your senses which you, most likely, believe to be showing you the truth.
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Old 04-23-2023, 01:20 PM
 
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This presents a perfect opportunity that should get this thread back on the rails. It is your opinion that the person in question should not be referred to as Dr. Knowing comes from Knowledge and knowledge is based on experience. I have been to the George Washington Carver National Monument site on many occasions. From my personal experience the Park's historical interpreters as well as guest scholars who present lectures there all refer to Mr. Carver as Dr. Carver. So it is not wrong to use the commonly used, Dr. Carver. If you had ever been there you would know this too.
One without an earned Doctorate isn’t entitled to use the title. Now you know this too.

That others choose to inappropriately use a title that he didn’t earn, and that he himself didn’t use, doesn’t change anything.
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Old 04-23-2023, 02:29 PM
 
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We have to believe our observations to base some other ideas off of them. This end about living according to preferences is just another preference.
Correct. I'm not sure where the problem is.
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Old 04-25-2023, 11:03 AM
 
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Correct. I'm not sure where the problem is.
The problem is that everything (besides pain and death) is an idea that you either believe or disbelieve. It's a problem because through this belief about beliefs you get to nihilism, if you actually believe it. Do you think this is the case or not and why?
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Old 04-25-2023, 11:22 AM
 
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This is a problem if you devote too much time to it (which looks to be the case). Questioning the questioning of the questions. Like a dog chasing its tail, or someone stuck in a whirlpool. Just move beyond it and live your life.

Some people have way too much idle time on their hands, and lead a life of triviality.
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Old 04-25-2023, 08:32 PM
 
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The problem is that everything (besides pain and death) is an idea that you either believe or disbelieve. It's a problem because through this belief about beliefs you get to nihilism, if you actually believe it. Do you think this is the case or not and why?
I personally think where we have taken ourselves, we have done so intentionally. If our thought process has taken us to nihilism, it can also intentionally lead away from it. That would be done with observation. You can observe people believing they live meaningful lives. Maybe you wouldn't want to live their life exactly, but there is no doubt that meaningfulness exists. It has to. If it didn't, nihilism wouldn't exist.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:56 AM
 
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This is a problem if you devote too much time to it (which looks to be the case). Questioning the questioning of the questions. Like a dog chasing its tail, or someone stuck in a whirlpool. Just move beyond it and live your life.

Some people have way too much idle time on their hands, and lead a life of triviality.
I think the bigger problem, related to your "live your life" prescription, is that people tend to ruminate without gathering enough data. There is too much theorizing and not enough experimentation.
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