[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

McGuinness High in OKC is Catholic. Lots of Catholic folks associated with it.



Having said that, OKC/Norman and Oklahoma in general is overtly Southern Baptist to the core.

surprisingly, according to Pew, Oklahoma is only 12% Southern Baptist. If you take in to account all Baptist denominations it goes up to 23%. They have another category called "Baptist family" that is not associated with the other Baptists that constitutes 5%. So maybe 28%.

Pew estimates that Catholics constitute 8% of Oklahoma residents. Outside of the Baptists, Catholics come out second in the percentage of population edging out Methodists and some of the other ones.

Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center

[MrJester]

Originally Posted by prerunner1982

Sounds like your friend's sister used that as an excuse. Easier to say I had to versus I wanted to. But that's just my guess.

Funny thing is, I (an Evangelical) once invited my friend to church, and both she and her mom thought that was rude of me because they think Catholicism is basically the same thing as Protestantism.

Doesn't make much sense, does it? If they think the two are actually similar, then they wouldn't be offended by a Protestant inviting them to a Protestant church.

So what if an Orthodox Jew invites them to visit a synagogue? Would they probably not go?

[Studying Okie]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

surprisingly, according to Pew, Oklahoma is only 12% Southern Baptist. If you take in to account all Baptist denominations it goes up to 23%. They have another category called "Baptist family" that is not associated with the other Baptists that constitutes 5%. So maybe 28%.

Pew estimates that Catholics constitute 8% of Oklahoma residents. Outside of the Baptists, Catholics come out second in the percentage of population edging out Methodists and some of the other ones.

Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center

According to this link, it looks like the 2014 percentage of Southern Baptists all over the South is lower than it has been traditionally:

Alabama: 25%

Arkansas: 17%

Delaware: 3%

Georgia: 15%

Kentucky: 16%

Maryland: 4%

Mississippi: 21%

Missouri: 9%

Louisiana: 12%

North Carolina: 12%

Oklahoma: 12%

South Carolina: 14%

Tennessee: 22%

Texas: 9%

Virginia: 10%

West Virginia: 4%

United States: 5.3%

My knowledge of Catholic history in Oklahoma is admittedly limited, but, anecdotally, it seems like right now the Catholic Church here is growing rapidly. As Oklahoma's Hispanic population has increased, the Catholic churches around these parts have benefited greatly. They just completed an impressive Catholic church in Stillwater and have plans to build an even more impressive and massive church in South OKC.

https://sfxstillwater.org/

https://newsok.com/article/5604191/a...-rother-shrine

[StillwaterTownie]

Better picture of new Stillwater Catholic Church here: Franck & Lohsen Architects | St. Francis Xavier Catholic Church

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

surprisingly, according to Pew, Oklahoma is only 12% Southern Baptist. If you take in to account all Baptist denominations it goes up to 23%. They have another category called "Baptist family" that is not associated with the other Baptists that constitutes 5%. So maybe 28%.

Pew estimates that Catholics constitute 8% of Oklahoma residents. Outside of the Baptists, Catholics come out second in the percentage of population edging out Methodists and some of the other ones.

Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center

Yeh, I wouldn't blindly trust Pew specifically when it comes to the Southern Baptist Convention when you have Lifeway, which is the SBC's facts/trends/stats arm; and, there is much detailed analysis that Lifeway engages in throughout the year for state conventions, churches, and pastors/ministerial leadership.



The following shows that while the SBC is on the decline (like every other major denomination has been for years/decades), it also shows that the SBC is still a sociological/cultural giant, especially in Southern states.


Oklahoma, given its overall small population, is still one of the most Southern Baptist-laced cultures in the United States.


This one is a bit dated (2014). I'll contact Lifeway and see if I can dig up something a bit more recent. At one point just about a decade ago, Oklahoma was almost a 1/3 Southern Baptist, right up there with Alabama and Mississippi.


Here it is: https://christianindex.org/sbc-acp2014/

[swake]

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

Yeh, I wouldn't blindly trust Pew specifically when it comes to the Southern Baptist Convention when you have Lifeway, which is the SBC's facts/trends/stats arm; and, there is much detailed analysis that Lifeway engages in throughout the year for state conventions, churches, and pastors/ministerial leadership.



The following shows that while the SBC is on the decline (like every other major denomination has been for years/decades), it also shows that the SBC is still a sociological/cultural giant, especially in Southern states.


Oklahoma, given its overall small population, is still one of the most Southern Baptist-laced cultures in the United States.


This one is a bit dated (2014). I'll contact Lifeway and see if I can dig up something a bit more recent. At one point just about a decade ago, Oklahoma was almost a 1/3 Southern Baptist, right up there with Alabama and Mississippi.


Here it is: https://christianindex.org/sbc-acp2014/

According to those numbers Oklahoma overall in 2014 was 17.2% SBC. But Churches tend to keep counting people as members long after they leave, so Pew looks pretty accurate.

According to City Data, by county in 2010:
Oklahoma County was 18.8% Southern Baptist
Cleveland County was 14.8% Southern Baptist
As a comparison Tulsa County was 15.0% Southern Baptist

Other religions/no religion:
Oklahoma County was 7.8% Catholic
Cleveland County was 3.7% Catholic
Tulsa County was 8.2% Catholic

Other religions/no religion
Oklahoma County was 25.1% no religion
Cleveland County was 56.6% no religion
Tulsa County was 37.4% no religion

[StillwaterTownie]

If Baptist and other conservative churches would emphasize the love and teachings of Jesus Christ, rather than dwell on getting abortion banned and being against legalization of rec marijuana, they could attract new members, especially young ones. But maybe the Baptists think they have to focus on controversial political issues, in order to keep the older members.