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Old 08-18-2008, 10:45 AM
 
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My sincere apologies; the second definition in my Random House College Dictionary is consistent with yours; mea culpa
apology accepted; no worries .
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:48 AM
 
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If they are going to put Cincinnati and Dayton into one metro area, than I think its about time they do the same with Akron. I also find it ridiculous that Canton isnt even included in the Akron metro or even the CSA of Cleveland/Akron. Cleveland and Akron are very connected and Akron and Canton are very connected. I feel at the very least either Cleveland and Akron should be in the same metro, or Akron and Canton should.

Its already obvious that they are connected, but for some examples. The old Cavs arena was in between Cleveland and Akron since the two were already connected and so that it would be easier for people to travel from both immediate areas. They also have detailed forecasts for both Cleveland and Akron/Canton because they have viewers from both. Also, the Cleveland State and Akron college merger. Also there is the Akron/Canton airport which speaks for itself how connected they are. I personally feel that at least 2 of them should be in the same metro, if not all three. And all of them should be in the same CSA. With Cleveland continuing to grow out and getting longer commutes the area is even more connected. This would make our CSA population near 3.5 million, and it would either make the Cleveland/Akron metro 2.9 million or the Akron/Canton metro 1.2 million.
you make good points, but the cleveland area is bleeding people. unfortunately, it would only slow the official "passing" of cleveland by cincinnati.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Tualatin, Oregon
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Speaking of growth, there is something I don't understand re: Cincinnati. Every year the Census publishes new estimates with detail for births/deaths/migration. They are always a little bit off for each metro, but it seem like Cincinnati's tends to be WAYYY off, and the final number ends up being significantly higher than what you would expect if you add up the beginning estimate + births - deaths +/- net migration. Does anyone in here know why?
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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The census is always way off. You can never entirely trust all of of these sites and companies. Its even sadder because thats the government, same thing with the FBI but they are way off with the crime. I still dont understand why they misreported Clevelands murders by 44.

The same thing happens with a lot of cities. They were saying Cincinnati was under 300,000 now and then they published it to be near 330,000. How does that make sense? Same thing with Cleveland, they said it was near 410,000 and it turned out to be around 440,000. They are always way off.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:50 PM
 
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The same thing happens with a lot of cities. They were saying Cincinnati was under 300,000 now and then they published it to be near 330,000.
The census has never stated that Cincinnati's population fell below 300k.
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Tualatin, Oregon
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The census has never stated that Cincinnati's population fell below 300k.
Sure they did! In 1890.

http://www.census.gov/population/www...0027/tab12.txt
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Old 08-19-2008, 04:57 PM
 
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Key word, "fell" ...
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Tualatin, Oregon
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Fell backwards.
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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The census has never stated that Cincinnati's population fell below 300k.
I dont remember if it was the census or some other source but it said Cincinnatis population estimate for this year was right around 300k, Ill try to find it. I dont remember if it went below 300k but it was very close to it.
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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MSN lists Dayton as #5 fastest dying American city. America's fastest-dying cities - Buy a House: MLS Listings & Home Buying Tips - MSN Real Estate

The top 5 fastest dying American cities
1. Canton, Ohio
2. Youngstown, Ohio
3. Flint, Mich.
4. Scranton, Pa.
5. Dayton, Ohio
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