Northeast or Southern Ohio? (Cleveland, Cincinnati: living in, military, move to)

[sans undertale]

Thinking about making the move to Ohio and I need to be somewhere that is very hilly (because of reverse slope) and enough snow to guarantee a white Christmas every year. Should I look at Northeast or Southern Ohio?

[mshultz]

According to the 1995 Weather Almanac, you have a 17% chance of a white Christmas in Cincinnati. Of the cities they list, Mansfield has the highest chance at 60%. Chardon, in Geauga county, has the most snow in Ohio, at 100", so the chances of a white Christmas should be even higher than Mansfield. However, another source also lists Chardon at 60% (actually 61%).

If you should move to Chardon, you will need 4WD or AWD. Snow tires are no substitute for 4WD or AWD when you have to go up hills. People who only drive in snow on flat ground have no idea how strong gravity is; just ask my driveway.

[WRnative]

The area of Geauga County, part of Greater Cleveland, that includes Chardon and Burton are likely your best bet for a hilly area with a likelihood of a white Christmas, at least occasionally, in Ohio. Even there, in the heart of Ohio's Lake Erie snowbelt, I wouldn't count on a white Christmas every year, especially in coming years as global warming continues to transform the weather of Ohio and particularly northeast Ohio.

Chardon has a charmingly decorated town square at Christmas. Chardon likely is the only, or one of the very few, that tracks its snowfall on the city's website.

https://www.chardon.cc/154/Snowfall

This map likely is dated with snowfall totals falling in recent years due to global warming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/com...hio_478_x_601/

Ohio has a lake effect snowbelt in northeastern Ohio, and the western side of the primary snowbelt is pretty hilly.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...stion-but.html

See this thread beginning with post 6:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio...-fit-bill.html

See post 14 in this thread. As discussed in this thread and elsewhere, snowfall totals reported may differ significantly from perceived snowfalls let alone accumulations due to amounts that melt when hitting warm ground, and by rapid thaws, even on snowfall days, given the warming winters.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio...l#post61875484

https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...l-december.php

See post 22 in this thread.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio...squares-3.html

See posts 12 and 13 in this thread:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...ebooked-2.html

See post 21 here:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...eveland-3.html

Especially if the Delta variant surge wanes before the holidays, northeast Ohio in 2021 may celebrate a more traditional and glorious holiday season.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...ts-2019-a.html

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by sans undertale

Thinking about making the move to Ohio and I need to be somewhere that is very hilly (because of reverse slope) and enough snow to guarantee a white Christmas every year. Should I look at Northeast or Southern Ohio?

Why would you want to live on a reverse slope? It's more gloomy with shorter days and colder with less sunlight (OK, perhaps nice on hot summer days).

Have you ever had to keep snow and ice off a hilly driveway, let alone drive on one? Have you ever tried to mow a hilly, or even heavily sloped piece of land?

[WRnative]

These threads may interest you.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...s-weather.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...east-ohio.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio...tion-ohio.html

[WRnative]

Weatherspark.com may be a great resource as you search for a relocation destination in the U.S.

https://weatherspark.com/y/18154/Ave...tes-Year-Round

[sans undertale]

Originally Posted by WRnative

Why would you want to live on a reverse slope?

I know a guy who used to be in the military and he says that being on a reverse slope is very important because it increases the chance of survivability during a nuclear fallout.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by sans undertale

I know a guy who used to be in the military and he says that being on a reverse slope is very important because it increases the chance of survivability during a nuclear fallout.

That's a new one. I think a well-equipped bomb shelter would be a much better bet for anyone actually interested in living in a post-Apocalypse world.

Have you ever seen "Blast from the Past," one of my favorite, all-time comedies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_from_the_Past_(film)

[woxyroxme]

Originally Posted by afield

I don't see how Southern Ohio can compete with NE Ohio for snow.

Yep. We usually go to the in-laws in south Dayton at xmas every year and I can only remember 2 snowy nights on the way home, one in the early 1990s and the other was a few years back and was just very light flurries. You are more likely to have a White Valentine’s Day than a White Xmas

[mshultz]

Referring to the 1995 Weather Almanac again, the only cities in the continental US with 90% or better odds of a white Christmas are Caribou Maine, Marquette & St. Ste. Marie Michigan, and Duluth & International Falls Minnesota,