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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
It isn't about an "emphasis" on STAR, but the point is to show what people are entitled to in regards to the overall property tax.
I know what the taxes are, but my point is that listings show what the overall property tax is, which includes the school tax. You can check this on any county website, which shows what the previous owner paid.
Unions can be issue in terms of teachers in NY, but you also don't want the issue that NC has in terms of poor pay for teachers either.
You and I have gone enough rounds, you always have a position that this program or moving to this place vice that or whatever cost less than XYZ. I'm stating that you have to evaluate the COL of a place based on the posted price not a program that someone might qualify for and even then doesn't help that much unless your over 65.
Taxes are not always reflected accurately in realtors ads, that's my point not the county records which may or may not be online or may or may not require you to have an account on the site.
What is poor teacher pay I don't know?? Today everyone feels they are worthy of top dollar so that's a wash. North Carolina has good teachers and schools and their kids are just as capable of going on to college or where ever they choose, people act like no good schools exist anywhere else. If teachers feel the pay is not worth it in NC then they won't take the jobs; supply/demand like everywhere else will dictate salaries and benefits.
You and I have gone enough rounds, you always have a position that this program or moving to this place vice that or whatever cost less than XYZ. I'm stating that you have to evaluate the COL of a place based on the posted price not a program that someone might qualify for and even then doesn't help that much unless your over 65.
Taxes are not always reflected accurately in realtors ads, that's my point not the county records which may or may not be online or may or may not require you to have an account on the site.
What is poor teacher pay I don't know?? Today everyone feels they are worthy of top dollar so that's a wash. North Carolina has good teachers and schools and their kids are just as capable of going on to college or where ever they choose, people act like no good schools exist anywhere else. If teachers feel the pay is not worth it in NC then they won't take the jobs; supply/demand like everywhere else will dictate salaries and benefits.
No, that isn't what I said about COL. My points are about what people are entitled to or what they could keep in mind in relation to costs/cost of living. That's it. Whether it is tax exemptions or potential tax differences between living in a village or a town.
There are 2 types of STAR and that is simple information that people should know, regardless of posted information.
Taxes on ads still includes school taxes in the listings, whether it is from the last owner or not.
Many, if not all counties in the state allow you to view tax info in terms of any address, whether it is for sale or not. That is something people doing research may also like to know.
I mentioned NC due to the issue of low pay for teachers having some impact on morale. I don't think I mentioned that other places do not have good schools.
What is poor teacher pay I don't know?? Today everyone feels they are worthy of top dollar so that's a wash. North Carolina has good teachers and schools and their kids are just as capable of going on to college or where ever they choose, people act like no good schools exist anywhere else. If teachers feel the pay is not worth it in NC then they won't take the jobs; supply/demand like everywhere else will dictate salaries and benefits.
Really? You mean the Charter Schools in NC that have a lottery for enrollment? You wonder how NC can have good schools with low taxes? By limiting how many students can get into those schools. That's how. I just looked at the global report card for student test scores against international students for the 2 wealthiest counties in NC (Orange and Wake) and the public school scores are just a low average. They are not "good". They are a low average. And that's where the best students should be located according to simple socio-economics. The charter schools have good scores. But again, emphasizing my point. Low taxes mean limited good schooling opportunities for the majority of the population.
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Really? You mean the Charter Schools in NC that have a lottery for enrollment? You wonder how NC can have good schools with low taxes? By limiting how many students can get into those schools. That's how. I just looked at the global report card for student test scores against international students for the 2 wealthiest counties in NC (Orange and Wake) and the public school scores are just a low average. They are not "good". They are a low average. And that's where the best students should be located according to simple socio-economics. The charter schools have good scores. But again, emphasizing my point. Low taxes mean limited good schooling opportunities for the majority of the population.
I never use magnet or charter schools as a reference because their ability to glean the top x% does not provide an accurate reflection. You and others act as if no decent schools exist outside of NY, how are the schools in Rochester rated? Last I looked not to good for all the tax monies paid.
Wake may be an affluent county but there are plenty of low income demographics within it, districts are county wide so even though there are really great schools the final number gets brought down by the lesser performing one. How would Monroe county rate if all the scores for the existing districts were combined as one?
As districts in your own area reflect high taxes does not ensure better students.
I never use magnet or charter schools as a reference because their ability to glean the top x% does not provide an accurate reflection. You and others act as if no decent schools exist outside of NY, how are the schools in Rochester rated? Last I looked not to good for all the tax monies paid.
Wake may be an affluent county but there are plenty of low income demographics within it, districts are county wide so even though there are really great schools the final number gets brought down by the lesser performing one. How would Monroe county rate if all the scores for the existing districts were combined as one?
As districts in your own area reflect high taxes does not ensure better students.
Except for Rochester City Schools, Monroe County has solid to some of the best public schools in the country(Brighton and Pittsford). Rochester is probably similar to Richmond City Schools, where there are select solid/good schools/programs and others that perform at a low level.
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Except for Rochester City Schools, Monroe County has solid to some of the best public schools in the country(Brighton and Pittsford). Rochester is probably similar to Richmond City Schools, where there are select solid/good schools/programs and others that perform at a low level.
My response is to DB's post using his reference don't start this "well this district is ...." His site shows 24 school districts for Monroe County NY add them up and then compare it to Wake/Orange counties NC which he commented on. When you have to combine all of the districts in a county the numbers don't come out so strong as straw picking the top 1 or 2.
As for Richmond City which I do not live in it or claim it. There are maybe 2 or 3 good Elementary schools that's it, the secondary's stink and anyone who can sends their kids to private school or moves out to the burbs.
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My response is to DB's post using his reference don't start this "well this district is ...." His site shows 24 school districts for Monroe County NY add them up and then compare it to Wake/Orange counties NC which he commented on. When you have to combine all of the districts in a county the numbers don't come out so strong as straw picking the top 1 or 2.
As for Richmond City which I do not live in it or claim it. There are maybe 2 or 3 good Elementary schools that's it, the secondary's stink and anyone who can sends their kids to private school or moves out to the burbs.
Stop wasting your time talking to ckhthankgod. It's a copy and paste for that person all day.
Add school taxes. City of Poughkeepsie - 220K property would have taxes around $3500 plus another 4000 in school taxes. I don't have a problem with paying $5000 in property taxes but there's no way I'm going to be paying $10000. Don't get me started on Yonkers, NY - Detroit in the making.
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Stop wasting your time talking to ckhthankgod. It's a copy and paste for that person all day.
We have a long history of maintaining opposite opinions and views but I prefer to stick to arguing the point made and not the person posting it....
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It's a copy and paste for that person all day.
