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Old 01-20-2024, 08:30 PM
 
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It's early days yet but seems like another NYC hospital is on the chopping block.

https://nypost.com/2024/01/20/metro/...l-in-brooklyn/

This comes as Mount Sinai is trying to shut down Beth Israel in Manhattan, but locals and others aren't having any of it.
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Old 01-21-2024, 07:13 AM
 
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N.Y.C. Hospitals have been closing
on a regular decadal basis since the fifties.
There were so many that few impacted the
neghborhood beyond nuisance.

Today?
It is now hard not to not notice so few hospitals for such a large population.
This will become problematic if not fixed.
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Old 01-21-2024, 08:45 AM
 
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N.Y.C. Hospitals have been closing
on a regular decadal basis since the fifties.
There were so many that few impacted the
neghborhood beyond nuisance.

Today?
It is now hard not to not notice so few hospitals for such a large population.
This will become problematic if not fixed.
Nature of healthcare is changing. Focus is on out patient and ambulatory services. As such there is less need for these big barns of hospitals built many decades ago when things were different.

Everyone predicted the sky would fall when St. Vincent's in GV closed. Much as one laments that event no such thing happened. That urgent care place opened by Northwell (Lenox Hill south or something) has done perfectly well in handling healthcare needs of area. People who need hospitalization from west side obviously weren't going to Beth Israel, but either NYU, or uptown to Mount Sinai, or NYP.

People out on SI are always moaning the Island needs another hospital. It doesn't... There are three major hospitals out there and yet many people still go into Manhattan, out to NJ or even Long Island for care.

They won't go to Richmond University Hospital (former St. Vincent's) for a host of reasons, starting with it's on the North Shore.
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Old 01-21-2024, 08:48 AM
 
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N.Y.C. Hospitals have been closing
on a regular decadal basis since the fifties.

There were so many that few impacted the
neghborhood beyond nuisance.

Today?
It is now hard not to not notice so few hospitals for such a large population.
This will become problematic if not fixed.
Before that!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...s_in_Manhattan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...tals_in_Queens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ls_in_Brooklyn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...s_in_the_Bronx
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Old 01-21-2024, 09:04 AM
 
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Hospital closings since 2000.

https://www.nysna.org/our-vow-no-more-closings
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Old 01-21-2024, 10:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Retired View Post
N.Y.C. Hospitals have been closing
on a regular decadal basis since the fifties.
There were so many that few impacted the
neghborhood beyond nuisance.

Today?
It is now hard not to not notice so few hospitals for such a large population.
This will become problematic if not fixed.
NYC hospitals (except for a few in Manhattan and on SI) are literally third world hell holes. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. COVID simply broke many of the ones which were already teetering on the edge.

The major issue is they've become medicaid/medicare mills which cater to * low income* immigrants and illegals. It's simply the most basic level of care. When I was a kid, it wasn't this way.
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Old 01-21-2024, 11:16 AM
 
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NYC hospitals (except for a few in Manhattan and on SI) are literally third world hell holes. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. COVID simply broke many of the ones which were already teetering on the edge.

The major issue is they've become medicaid/medicare mills which cater to * low income* immigrants and illegals. It's simply the most basic level of care. When I was a kid, it wasn't this way.
Part of problem is the well known fact many residents of Brooklyn, Queens, SI and the Bronx all go into Manhattan for healthcare, especially hospitalization. That or as have said out to LI or NJ.

Long Island College Hospital closed despite that part of Brooklyn long since being hot real estate wise and gentrifying. Just as with West and Greenwich Village money wouldn't go to St. Vincent's, people avoided LICH choosing to go elsewhere instead.

NYU now owns/runs the urgent care place that replaced LICH. Cuomo was trying to get the major Manhattan hospitals to partner or buy any of the struggling Brooklyn places, that was and still is a work in progress.

NYP got Methodist hospital in Brooklyn.

https://www.nyp.org/brooklyn

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...-presbyterian/

Kingsbrook, Brookdale University Hospital and Medical Center and Interfaith Medical Center are merging under "One Brooklyn Health System". This was best that could be done by Cuomo/NYS since no one else wanted to go near any of them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...-cuts-00109936

NYU-Langone bought Lutheran hospital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYU_La...l_–_Brooklyn

Problem many hospitals in Brooklyn, Bronx and even Queens have is they are essentially safety net or hospitals of last resort. People with good to excellent health insurance or who can afford to self pay won't go near. Well not at least in numbers that make a difference to bottom line.
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Old 01-22-2024, 11:18 AM
 
Location: NY
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Yes. Right you are.
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Old 01-22-2024, 01:10 PM
 
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what are we talkin about here? People who visit the clinics? yes , many of our hospitals offer care to underserved communities. As a result of downstate closing there will be overflow into Kings, which many are not looking forward to. I just hope Downstate keeps their cafeteria open lol.
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Old 01-22-2024, 03:16 PM
 
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what are we talkin about here? People who visit the clinics? yes , many of our hospitals offer care to underserved communities. As a result of downstate closing there will be overflow into Kings, which many are not looking forward to. I just hope Downstate keeps their cafeteria open lol.
I was born there, smh
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