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Old 11-09-2023, 12:49 PM
 
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Congestion price is just another huge tax increase on people who live in NYC and surrounding areas.

The taxes target midtown and up to downtown in order to tax the last FREE transit hub.

Trucks and business avoided using the midtown tunnels, Triboro bridges, Verranzano, Whitestone Bridge because all of these requires tolls to leave.

Going into midtown and taking the Lincoln or holland tunnels are the last TOLL free ways out of NYC that's left.

Many years ago, Bloomberg wanted to tax the bridges like Williamsburg and Brooklyn but a lot of uproar cause that to fail. They wanted $8 going into NYC.

Now they get to tax any car that goes through manhattan during the day will force all traffic to go around manhattan and use the other toll roads such as Verranzano and Triboro Bridge which are also very expensive routes.

If you don't drive and don't care, you will see all restaurant, services, and even food bill go up as a result of all the delivery trucks must come into the city using toll roads. There will be no free methods left to go into NYC during the day.

The next thing NYC will do is that they see all of the congestion happen at night time and they will implement 24/7 congestion pricing.
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Old 11-09-2023, 01:01 PM
 
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Added expense will be passed onto consumer. In a way it will keep the poor out and push them into subways were they belong.
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Old 11-09-2023, 01:12 PM
 
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Poor people will all be riding bikes and scooters. The only thing that will affect them is when they buy stuff they will all end up stealing groceries and stuff from Target anyways. It's the government stealing from the middle class and the poor stealing from business.

More people will leave next few years. Sitting at home working is still gonna affect you. All services and goods will keep going up and the amount of congestion will get worst as cars and trucks will have to divert to Staten Island and Outterbridge crossing to avoid the higher price tolls in manhattan.

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Old 11-09-2023, 07:19 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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When does this start? As soon as it does I’m going to start picking up cases in Manhattan so I can double up the expenses.
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Old 11-09-2023, 07:46 PM
 
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I think it starts in April 2024. I know a lot of truckers or contractors don't give a damn. They will up their fees to make their customers pay.
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Old 11-10-2023, 03:58 AM
 
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Congestion price is just another huge tax increase on people who live in NYC and surrounding areas.

The taxes target midtown and up to downtown in order to tax the last FREE transit hub.

Trucks and business avoided using the midtown tunnels, Triboro bridges, Verranzano, Whitestone Bridge because all of these requires tolls to leave.

Going into midtown and taking the Lincoln or holland tunnels are the last TOLL free ways out of NYC that's left.

Many years ago, Bloomberg wanted to tax the bridges like Williamsburg and Brooklyn but a lot of uproar cause that to fail. They wanted $8 going into NYC.

Now they get to tax any car that goes through manhattan during the day will force all traffic to go around manhattan and use the other toll roads such as Verranzano and Triboro Bridge which are also very expensive routes.

If you don't drive and don't care, you will see all restaurant, services, and even food bill go up as a result of all the delivery trucks must come into the city using toll roads. There will be no free methods left to go into NYC during the day.

The next thing NYC will do is that they see all of the congestion happen at night time and they will implement 24/7 congestion pricing.


There is no better way than to push the destitute, the poor
and the middle class out of the city than by raising prices.


A city for only the rich me thinks!
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Old 11-10-2023, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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I'm sure they are working hard on how to tax breathing. One for each inhale, then again for each exhale.

NYC doesn't disappoint in taxing the living day lights out of people. The Boston Tea Party should become the New York Tea Party 21st Century Edition! Americans have a history of protesting against taxes when they had enough!
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Old 11-10-2023, 06:24 AM
 
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The UK now has ULEZ. Ultra Low Emission Zones. Camera enforced. If your car ain't compliant you get a ticket.

You bet your tuchus that will be next.

I bet my paycheck if you get caught vandalizing one of these congestion cameras. The DA will come down hard on you.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsl...as/ar-AA1jcP7X

There have been almost 1,000 thefts and acts of vandalism against Ulez cameras across the capital over the past seven months, the Met revealed on Wednesday.

The force recorded 987 crimes relating to ULEZ cameras including 220 cameras stolen and 767 damaged from April 1 to the end of October.


Drivers of older vehicles have been slapped with the £12.50 daily charge - aimed at lowering pollution on the capital's roads - since the end of August.

Date released this week, from August 29 until September 30, suggests the expansion earned £23.6m from 57,200 drivers paying the daily £12.50 charge.
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Old 11-10-2023, 08:32 AM
 
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That’s insane . Imagine forcing people to buy newer cars . People are just cattle they steer any way they want.
This is why individualism is important. Revolutions are important.
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Old 11-10-2023, 08:47 AM
 
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You are 100% right OP. I thought that this was pretty clear from the get go.
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