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Old 10-15-2023, 07:21 AM
 
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It’s time to admit that multiculturalism failed.
If you look at the history of China, it was filled with wars among hundreds of ethnic groups/races from all locations/religious groups. By now, all ethnic groups and religions settle peacefully among each other under one mainstream culture identity, preserving their ethnic identity and cultural heritage as second, while forgoing their differences and historical wars/hostility. Tibetans, Muslims, Mongols, Manchus, Koreans, Vietnamese, Thais, etc all acknowledge and accepted by each other as Chinese. There are some rebels by the Uighur in the west for independence, but by and large they will assimilate into the mainstream culture within one or two generations. While I don’t agree with ccp’s politics and way of governing by and large, I admire their ability to rid off people’s differences/confronts and melt them into one cultural identity to avoid killing and hatred.

The force under the melting pot here in NYC become severely weakened and compromised under the lousy leadership of de blasio who put people against each other. Dumb adams only knows how to divide people further. Before the next competent leader comes into office, nyc will remain divided and chaos with different cultural/ethnic groups fighting to protect and maximize their own interests.
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:44 AM
 
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It seems like yesterday, NYC was truly a melting pot.

Today NYC is a crap hole were people who fled their countries for a better life, brought the reason they fled with them.
In a functional society, this could have been resolved smoothly by a fair l&o system without escalating to being a protest by one group against the other. But you know that l&o in nyc/ny is so rigged that people have little faith in it, thus deciding to mobilize and demand justice on their own. Most societal issues arise When politicians/government fail to do their job in maintaining a fair and just system.
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:47 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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If you look at the history of China, it was filled with wars among hundreds of ethnic groups/races from all locations/religious groups. By now, all ethnic groups and religions settle peacefully among each other under one mainstream culture identity, preserving their ethnic identity and cultural heritage as second, while forgoing their differences and historical wars/hostility. Tibetans, Muslims, Mongols, Manchus, Koreans, Vietnamese, Thais, etc all acknowledge and accepted by each other as Chinese. There are some rebels by the Uighur in the west for independence, but by and large they will assimilate into the mainstream culture within one or two generations. While I don’t agree with ccp’s politics and way of governing by and large, I admire their ability to rid off people’s differences/confronts and melt them into one cultural identity to avoid killing and hatred.

The force under the melting pot here in NYC become severely weakened and compromised under the lousy leadership of de blasio who put people against each other. Dumb adams only knows how to divide people further. Before the next competent leader comes into office, nyc will remain divided and chaos with different cultural/ethnic groups fighting to protect and maximize their own interests.
Nah, you are wrong about China. The CCP is like the stern teacher in a classroom. Once that stern teacher leaves, the kids go back to misbehaving. Right now, no one will do anything for fear of the CCP but if the CCP ever weakens (and you know at some point they will, history tells us that because no regime ever lasts forever) those ethnic tensions will arise again.

In this country, we have the whites who are still the majority, keeping the peace and making everyone follow law and order but once the whites disappear (reduced to a small minority) there will be fighting amongst all the ethnic groups to fill the power vacuum left by the whites.
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:51 AM
 
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It’s time to admit that multiculturalism failed.
So who do we blame?
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Old 10-15-2023, 08:01 AM
 
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In a functional society, this could have been resolved smoothly by a fair l&o system without escalating to being a protest by one group against the other. But you know that l&o in nyc/ny is so rigged that people have little faith in it, thus deciding to mobilize and demand justice on their own. Most societal issues arise When politicians/government fail to do their job in maintaining a fair and just system.
These NYC politicians did not fail to do their jobs. They are very successfully turning the city into the progressive experiment that their liberal voters wanted. They wanted:

1. Decriminalization of the criminal justice system. Check.
2. Overhaul of the NYPD into a weaker, more inclusive force. Check (although it is still in progress)
3. The city government to be almost entirely controlled by progressives. Check.
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Old 10-15-2023, 08:04 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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So who do we blame?
Folks like you, who told us to not complain and to leave and that there’s nothing one can do about, that it’s always been like this, and who endlessly make excuses and defend the political side that supports the policies that lead to what we have now, which by the way, is only the beginning it will only get worse from here.
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Old 10-15-2023, 08:15 AM
 
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So who do we blame?
Western Europeans who created and managed the Atlantic slave trade
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Old 10-15-2023, 08:29 AM
 
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You are Canadian and know very little about the U.S. except for reading this forum and from news from the liberal mainstream media and from your occasional visits (LOL). The multiculturalism in the U.S. for a very long time was only limited to the big coastal cities. Even then, these cities up until the last decade or so, still have a white majority, keeping all the tribalism at bay. Furthermore, the different ethnicities tend to voluntarily segregate themselves as well, reducing conflict for the most part but that won’t last once the whites become a minority.

The various groups will be in conflict with each other, among other things, including for power and control. And for that reason, you can bet that tribalism will appear and all the conflicts that we see on the world stage will appear here as well. The Leftist multicultural utopia they envision will never materialize.


I have family members all over the US, my grandmother was American, and only live 40 minutes from NY state. I am not immune to your infections.

I read this week Quebec had 470,000 irregulars, or migrants from other countries without a final status. So, a lot of people for our less than 9 million population. I think US citizens have a right to demand more enforcement of sovereignty at their borders, no question. But that doesn’t mean the mix of populations from around the globe is a net deficit for the US, there are far more nefarious things at play.
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Old 10-15-2023, 08:35 AM
 
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Folks like you, who told us to not complain and to leave and that there’s nothing one can do about, that it’s always been like this, and who endlessly make excuses and defend the political side that supports the policies that lead to what we have now, which by the way, is only the beginning it will only get worse from here.
But, what is your alternative?

A pouty President Chump in office, again.

Talk about divisiveness, he has been nothing if not the major enabler of factions and sectarian interests. He was playing all sides, saying one thing and its opposite a minute later. How anyone cannot see that is absurd.
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Old 10-15-2023, 08:36 AM
 
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Folks like you, who told us to not complain and to leave and that there’s nothing one can do about, that it’s always been like this, and who endlessly make excuses and defend the political side that supports the policies that lead to what we have now, which by the way, is only the beginning it will only get worse from here.
How has the complaining been working out for you so far? Any improvements?
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