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Old 08-22-2022, 12:48 PM
 
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A lot of current luxury construction are already subsidized with the 80/20 program.
So you are proposing continued 80/20 as a possible solution? I just want to hear everyone’s suggestions; its interesting to hear.
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Old 08-22-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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The property owner is responsible for making sure the city gets the payment. But the money comes from the tenants. Lol.
That's not true. You asked who pays the property taxes. Landlords pay the property taxes. Tenants pay rent. If a tenant doesn't pay rent, that doesn't absolve the LL from paying their property taxes

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Of course there's a black market for market rate apartments, you think every single apartment gets listed? Lol. Houses are sold off-market all the time, what makes you think market rate apartments are exempt.

Look, you guys can wish to abolish rent stabilization all you want. If it ever happens, it's going to lead to even higher rents, and even more people leaving the city, and then you'll really have nothing left. So keep wishing for it, because nobody is going to pay the commuting costs, and the utilities are just going to raise their rates even more because the rents have increased. Some of you live in pure fantasy.
You clearly don't understand what a black market is.

You do realize that there's a substantial shortage of housing in NYC, correct? If people were leaving the city, why would we have a severe shortage in housing? Your argument is literally not possible. It cannot be true simply due to the reality at hand. Who lives in a fantasy land?
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Old 08-22-2022, 12:55 PM
 
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That's not true. You asked who pays the property taxes. Landlords pay the property taxes. Tenants pay rent. If a tenant doesn't pay rent, that doesn't absolve the LL from paying their property taxes



You clearly don't understand what a black market is.

You do realize that there's a substantial shortage of housing in NYC, correct? If people were leaving the city, why would we have a severe shortage in housing? Your argument is literally not possible. It cannot be true simply due to the reality at hand. Who lives in a fantasy land?
Where does the money come from to pay the property taxes… so I guess the LL does not use any of the rent they collect to pay it, right? Smh

Also, who’s leaving the city more? Owners or renters?
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:00 PM
 
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Housing shortage my foot. If there was a housing shortage there would be no listings up
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:19 PM
 
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But what proof do you have that abolishing rent stabilization will prevent future situations like this?
No one can actually "prove" something about a future situation.

It's all theoretical until it actually happens.
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:22 PM
 
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No one can actually "prove" something about a future situation.

It's all theoretical until it actually happens.
Go read about what happened when they got rid of rent stabilization in Boston and come back
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:25 PM
 
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Go read about what happened when they got rid of rent stabilization in Boston and come back
Even if it worked well in Boston, that wouldn't be "proof" of anything that could possibly happen in the future. I'm not even making an argument about getting rid of rent stabilization, just pointing out that it's impossible to "prove" what's going to happen in the future.
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Old 08-23-2022, 11:31 AM
 
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Housing shortage my foot. If there was a housing shortage there would be no listings up
Noone should take you seriously after this post.
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Old 08-23-2022, 11:35 AM
 
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Noone should take you seriously after this post.
Somebody’s prolly in the middle of signing a lease right now
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Old 08-23-2022, 11:46 AM
 
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That's not true. You asked who pays the property taxes. Landlords pay the property taxes. Tenants pay rent. If a tenant doesn't pay rent, that doesn't absolve the LL from paying their property taxes



You clearly don't understand what a black market is.

You do realize that there's a substantial shortage of housing in NYC, correct? If people were leaving the city, why would we have a severe shortage in housing? Your argument is literally not possible. It cannot be true simply due to the reality at hand. Who lives in a fantasy land?
Slight correction. Co-op owners ( of which there are many under rent stabilized programs like Mitchell Lama) pay real estate property taxes too. It's just bundled into their maintenance fees over a year period.
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