Subway Barriers: 128 of 472 could accommodate barriers, costing $7 billion (crime, construction)

[Esacni]

Where are our resident clowns that argued that this was a great idea and very feasible? The MTA doesn't even run like a normal transit agency. How about using the existing funds to actually run a first rate transit system? It's as if the fire department comes up to a burning building and they decide to shut off a leaky toilet. How about the city letting the NYPD handle the homeless problem in stations?

https://gothamist.com/news/mta-drops...r-track-safety

https://new.mta.info/document/73241

In 2017, the MTA commissioned a consulting group to study all 472 subway stations to see if the platform barriers could be installed and what it would cost. Two years later, in 2019, the firm STV delivered a nearly 3,000-page report, which the MTA finally released publicly on Thursday afternoon.

The report found that only 128 stations could accommodate the protective barriers, and it would cost the MTA about $7 billion dollars to install them. That would be almost 14% of the current capital plan

While the study goes into exhaustive detail about the challenges of installing three different types of platform screen doors at all stations on all lines, STV also identified recurring problems.

Overall, there were three main reasons most stations couldn’t accommodate the platform screen doors:

At 154 stations, the platforms were too narrow to have room for both doors and wheelchair access.

The shape of many subway cars and the lip of platforms would leave large gaps between the platform edge and the trains.

Finally, the platform screen doors would be hard to install amidst the structural support columns in many stations.


The report is so precise it even includes exact measurements for many platforms and renderings that detail the space constraints, as well as consideration of how the lighting might be affected, and even the cost of replacing ceramic tiles during construction.

[BBMW]

They need to get a new signal system installed systemwide before even looking at this concept.

[2020's YouTube Vlog]

Originally Posted by BBMW

They need to get a new signal system installed systemwide before even looking at this concept.

Got to learn how to crawl before learning how to walk.

[Dave 92 LSC]

Easier to get rid of homeless no? Looks how effective Deblasio was with only 1 billion.

[BBMW]

Prior to Bla, the problem was fairly well under control.

Originally Posted by Dave 92 LSC

Easier to get rid of homeless no? Looks how effective Deblasio was with only 1 billion.

[Mr.Retired]

Bring Rudy Back............................Fill the hole with sand..........Crime Problem solved. Revenue saved.

[Slunk]

Lol at 7 billion.

[BBMW]

We'd need a Rudy-a-like at this point. The original is getting a bit old. But basically yes.

Originally Posted by Mr.Retired

Bring Rudy Back............................Fill the hole with sand..........Crime Problem solved. Revenue saved.

[antinimby]

A few more weeks from now when the emotions from that subway pushing death subsides and memories fades, all this platform door talk will go away and nothing as usual will come of it.

A decade from now, there’ll be another subway pushing death (there’ll be lots of other shoving deaths in between but certain ones seems to get more emotions) that’ll grab the public’s attention again and the MTA will do yet another study and draw the same conclusions except it’ll be $18 Billion then.

Rinse and repeat.

[bluedog2]

Have never understood why so many people hang out near the edge of the platforms just waiting to be shoved.