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Old 09-23-2023, 07:01 PM
 
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Orthodox in Monroe?
I’m sorry to hear this.
not Orthodox

but it doesn't matter which religion

a peaceful residential area should be a residential area
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Old 09-23-2023, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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You need to call zoning or code enforcement. Police won't do anything about someone taking public land as their own.
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Old 09-24-2023, 02:17 AM
 
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You need to call zoning or code enforcement. Police won't do anything about someone taking public land as their own.
??? Yes they will, it's there job! To have the type of "event " on Public land the OP is talking about there needs to be a permit of some kind and it's the Police who enforce that.
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Old 09-24-2023, 07:46 AM
 
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??? Yes they will, it's there job! To have the type of "event " on Public land the OP is talking about there needs to be a permit of some kind and it's the Police who enforce that.
Unfortunately, in this case, the police was unwilling or unable to enforce since they had no way of knowing that the homeowner's actual property was way smaller than the area the homeowner commandeered.
There are no fences.

The police officer said that private gatherings on personal property is allowed.

There is no way the homeowner is able to have 100 people on his 0.18 acre property unless they were standing together like sardines. The lots are about 80' x 100' and half of it is the house.

This was most definitely a public "event".
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Old 09-24-2023, 02:51 PM
 
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Unfortunately, in this case, the police was unwilling or unable to enforce since they had no way of knowing that the homeowner's actual property was way smaller than the area the homeowner commandeered.
There are no fences.

The police officer said that private gatherings on personal property is allowed.

There is no way the homeowner is able to have 100 people on his 0.18 acre property unless they were standing together like sardines. The lots are about 80' x 100' and half of it is the house.

This was most definitely a public "event".
What is worse? Your neighbor will not pay property taxes on his home now!

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Taxed Off: NY religious property tax breaks soar heavenward

Religious groups' land bypassed for taxation has nearly doubled to $26 billion from 1999

Only 29% of New Yorkers say they attend worship services weekly.

One in every 120 pieces of land in Ramapo is a clergy residence.

Rochester has the third-highest number of properties with religious tax exemptions in the state

New Yorkers are spending less of their time in traditional houses of worship, but their financial support for those spiritual centers is stronger than ever — at least judging by their tax bills.

Statewide, the value of religious groups' land bypassed for taxation has nearly doubled from $14 billion to $26 billion between 1999 and 2015, a USA Today Network analysis has found.

That figure still only covers basic nonprofit religious exemptions. Religious schools and clergy residences remove tens of millions more from municipal tax bases each year.

“We have seen the growth of value of property off the tax rolls explode in the past decade. When a property comes off the tax rolls, it simply shifts a higher tax burden onto the shoulders of the remaining taxpayers,” said state Sen. John Bonacic, R-Sullivan County, noting that state residents already pay some of the highest property-tax bills in the nation.

For example, Buffalo and Rochester, former hubs of statewide commerce and culture whose populations have fallen sharply in the last 60 years, still have the second- and third-highest number of properties with religious tax exemptions in the state, respectively.

Nowhere is the expansion of religious exemptions as pronounced as in Ramapo, a Rockland County town that is home to a rapidly growing Orthodox Jewish population.

"You could feasibly have a situation where there are no properties on the tax rolls," West said of Ramapo. "If you do the math and extrapolate it out, there's only so much land."

The story is similar around the state. Patterson is a Putnam County town where the Jehovah's Witnesses' Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has more than 700 acres of tax-exempt land. The town’s nonprofit religious tax exempt property value increased 29 percent, to $155 million, though the number of parcels decreased by three to 25.
https://www.democratandchronicle.com...eaks/92726198/

I cut up a long article. You can read the link!
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Old 09-26-2023, 10:30 AM
 
Location: USA
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Anything new?

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Old 09-26-2023, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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A few thoughts:

1. This sounds like something the HOA (if there is one) and/or the municipal zoning official ought to investigate/act upon.
2. This kind of hyper-local issue might get more response on Nextdoor, where there's typically more neighborhood-level discussion of such issues.
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