Midtown Developments (Birmingham, Mobile, Huntsville: appointed, fit in, apartment)

[Carolina Knight]

Originally Posted by MPC

I am just going by the plan which has it at 39,203 square feet. I too thought it would be bigger than that and can be if they update it to a more urban design rather than suburban.

Here is a photo with the sq. footage

Publix has seven store prototypes from 28m (28,000 square feet) to 61m (61,000 square feet). ("Publix Real Estate - Site Submission.") Opening smaller stores with the necessities of food and pharmacy is common for Publix. It can open a quantity of these stores throughout Mobile County.

[MPC]

Originally Posted by Carolina Knight

Publix has seven store prototypes from 28m (28,000 square feet) to 61m (61,000 square feet). ("Publix Real Estate - Site Submission.") Opening smaller stores with the necessities of food and pharmacy is common for Publix. It can open a quantity of these stores throughout Mobile County.

Oh okay I misunderstood you, I thought you were implying by your original comment that 39,000 was too small. I see what you're saying now and I think smaller Publix's would work but I was basing my comments on the Publix they built in Mobile from the ground up which is 60k square foot.

[Carolina Knight]

Originally Posted by MPC

Oh okay I misunderstood you, I thought you were implying by your original comment that 39,000 was too small. I see what you're saying now and I think smaller Publix's would work but I was basing my comments on the Publix they built in Mobile from the ground up which is 60k square foot.

Publix has been replacing older 39m stores with either 45m or 49m stores. Opening a new quantity of 39m stores with updates such as pharmacy drive thru chain-wide is new to me. I think the 39m prototype could see use in Publix's further expansion in North Carolina and Virginia.

[_OT]

Originally Posted by evlb401

I really don't want to be the only one not excited by this project. I was happy at first, until I saw these plans. Seems pretty typical suburban development going into an awesome infill site. It looks like it could be on the Eastern Shore or West Mobile. I understand the need for parking, but I think it could be redesigned to fit more into the neighborhood.

I don't know if Phase 2 is actually a project planned or not, but it seemed more fitting that they'd develop a project that coexisted with that particular project, instead of the current model. A Publix with a Suburban development, toppled with another strip mall poses more negatives than it does positives in an area like Midtown Mobile.

[MPC]

Originally Posted by Carolina Knight

Publix has been replacing older 39m stores with either 45m or 49m stores. Opening a new quantity of 39m stores with updates such as pharmacy drive thru chain-wide is new to me. I think the 39m prototype could see use in Publix's further expansion in North Carolina and Virginia.

I don't know enough about Publix but they have a sales per square foot of around 620 dollars, so that store would need to gross 24.3 million annually. The average family spends 4 grand per year on groceries, that would mean they need roughly 6,100 homes in the area of the store. Midtown probably has 7-10k households there so maybe a store that big could work.

[Carolina Knight]

Originally Posted by MPC

I don't know enough about Publix but they have a sales per square foot of around 620 dollars, so that store would need to gross 24.3 million annually. The average family spends 4 grand per year on groceries, that would mean they need roughly 6,100 homes in the area of the store. Midtown probably has 7-10k households there so maybe a store that big could work.

A store does not have to be the largest to effectively serve its trade area and be profitable. Publix's smaller stores are strong examples of accomplishing that.

[MPC]

Originally Posted by Carolina Knight

A store does not have to be the largest to effectively serve its trade area and be profitable. Publix's smaller stores are strong examples of accomplishing that.

I agree but I was just stating the numbers. Just like any city, the further you go out the less dense it gets. The density in Midtown would allow for a smaller store and still perform well.

[evlb401]

Just saw that publix is being constructed near downtown Pensacola east hill neighborhood. 28,000 square feet smaller urban store that will have parking in rear, outdoor seating, and lot line construction. WHY NOT HERE!!!! I'm so sick of people around here thinking that we have to be happy just to be getting something. I would rather wait until a real developer that cared about the community comes along and does something with it. This is the beauty of our neighborhood we are talking about. What makes me mad is that Dianne Irby with the planning department basically said the community needs to be realistic and accept the plans. She is crazy!!! Obviously she doesn't do her job if she doesn't know publix is building urban stores in Nashville, P-Cola, and Charlotte. Hell, I think b-ham is getting one. I'm really upset.

[preguntas]

The new downtown store in Birmingham couldn't get more urban; at 35,000 sq. ft., it has five levels of parking on top of the store, and three levels of apartments on top of the parking. And it meets the sidewalk on that corner.


But to be honest, all 'urban' Publix stores don't have the urban panache. The fairly new one in Greenville S.C. is part of a development that looks a lot like a small suburban shopping area, and it does sit in a sea of parking.


I suspect that each community has to be really proactive with the agencies that are suppose to zone and review design. Especially if it is backfill in gentrifying residential areas. (if not the residents then who)

[southinyourmouth]

I've never seen any publix that was really that urban. I've been to ones in urban areas. it's just like the rest but the bricks are a little different lol.