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Old 10-17-2021, 01:04 AM
 
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The Mitsubishi Mirage had a facelift and it’s a big improvement over the previous front end styling. It also offers a slightly larger rim/tire size up to 175/55R15 from standard 14” tires. The top trim styling front end reminds me of early GTI front end styling. 70something HP isn’t much but the car barely weighs a ton. It has potential to be a fun little car to toss around in manual transmission form and the right type of tires. Not saying it’s on the level of early hot hatches of the late 70s to mid 80s. It is one of the cheapest and lightest cars you can buy new today and still offers a manual transmission.
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Old 10-17-2021, 04:37 AM
 
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70something HP isn’t much but the car barely weighs a ton.
My mother's car has averaged 3,300 miles for the last 11 years, almost entirely on local roads with 35 mph and 40 mph speed limits. It's nice to know that someone is still making a cheap car like this (MSRP: From $14,645) because not everyone wants to mess around with buying a used car.

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Old 10-17-2021, 06:07 AM
 
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My mother's car has averaged 3,300 miles for the last 11 years, almost entirely on local roads with 35 mph and 40 mph speed limits. It's nice to know that someone is still making a cheap car like this (MSRP: From $14,645) because not everyone wants to mess around with buying a used car.
And push button start and auto climate control standard.
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Old 10-17-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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And push button start and auto climate control standard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAzBRK9-9TU
They used to do these commercials about cute young kids without much money and all they could afford was a little subcompact sedan. In this commercial a young girl gets her heart broken and the Mirage is her only friend.

You never see these commercials anymore. I see Mitsubushi commercial about the Criss Cross and Outlander all the time. I guess sales are so small they don't bother.

Mirage sales vs total Mitsubushi sales in the US.
  • 2,935 2013 62,227 5%
  • 16,708 2014 77,643 22%
  • 21,515 2015 95,342 23%
  • 22,226 2016 97,267 23%
  • 22,386 2017 103,686 22%
  • 24,316 2018 118,074 21%
  • 26,966 2019 121,049 22%
  • 19,135 2020 87,386 22%
  • 18,591 2021 77,177 24%
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Old 10-17-2021, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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At one time Mitsubishi made some nice looking cars. I don't know what happened but their styling is terrible now.

It seems like they were always bad about burning oil for some reason.
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Old 10-17-2021, 09:13 PM
 
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At one time Mitsubishi made some nice looking cars. I don't know what happened but their styling is terrible now.
According to Automotive News, Mitsubishi Motors CEO Takao Kato said that the company will be pulling back from large global markets such as Europe and China to focus on Southeast Asia and elsewhere. And while it didn't mention the U.S. by name, it later specified to the outlet that America is one of such large markets. Jun 24, 2020

Mitsubushi sales in the US have always been mediocre. By comparison Subaru deliberately chose to concentrate on the US market.

Mitsubushi - Year - Subaru --- ratio
  • 87,386 2020 611,942 700%
  • 121,049 2019 700,117 578%
  • 118,074 2018 680,135 576%
  • 103,686 2017 647,956 625%
  • 97,267 2016 615,132 632%
  • 95,342 2015 582,675 611%
  • 77,643 2014 513,693 662%
  • 62,227 2013 424,683 682%
  • 62,286 2012 336,441 540%
  • 79,016 2011 266,989 338%
  • 55,683 2010 263,820 474%
  • 53,988 2009 216,652 401%
  • 97,258 2008 187,699 193%
  • 128,993 2007 187,208 145%
  • 118,558 2006 200,703 169%
  • 123,995 2005 196,002 158%

Suzuki pulled out of the US automobile market in 2012
Mazda has had it's ups and downs with US automobile sales peaking in 2015 although it looks like 2021 will be a new record
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Old 10-17-2021, 09:54 PM
 
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My mother's car has averaged 3,300 miles for the last 11 years, almost entirely on local roads with 35 mph and 40 mph speed limits. It's nice to know that someone is still making a cheap car like this (MSRP: From $14,645) because not everyone wants to mess around with buying a used car.

If she has a place to charge, she'd be a prime candidate for one of the cheaper urban commuter EVs that are available in Europe or China, but unfortunately those generally aren't coming here anytime soon.
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Old 10-18-2021, 04:29 AM
 
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Of the top 10 vehicle registrtions in California in 2020 I think the Civic and Corolla will be the hardest to replace with EVs.
  1. 59,335 Honda Civic
  2. 57,449 Toyota RAV4
  3. 56,301 Toyota Camry
  4. 50,751 Ford F-Series
  5. 44,141 Chevrolet Silverado
  6. 43,467 Toyota Corolla
  7. 42,653 Honda Accord
  8. 39,752 Toyota Tacoma
  9. 38,636 Ram Pickup
  10. 38,580 Tesla Model 3

California mix of vehicles does differ from the rest of the nation. Over one third of vehicles are cars, vs less than one fourth for the Rest of the United States.
California vs Rest of Nation
36% > 23% cars
64% < 77% light trucks

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If she has a place to charge, she'd be a prime candidate for one of the cheaper urban commuter EVs that are available in Europe or China, but unfortunately those generally aren't coming here anytime soon.
That 61.6 cu. ft. of cargo space with the back seats down does come in handy. Of the present day hatchbacks only the Kia Soul has more space.

Hatchbacks with over 50 cu. ft of cargo space
  1. Porsche Panamera - 14.3 to 18.3 cu. ft./ 44.0 to 52.6 cu. ft.
  2. Honda Fit - 16.6 cu. ft./52.7 cu. ft.
  3. Volkswagen Golf/Golf GTI - 22.8 cu. ft./52.7 to 53.7 cu. ft.
  4. Kia Niro - 18.5 to 19.4 cu. ft./53.0 to 54.5 cu. ft.
  5. Volkswagen Arteon - 27.2 cu. ft./ 55.0 cu. ft.
  6. Hyundai Elantra GT - 24.9 cu. ft./ 55.1 cu. ft.
  7. Subaru Impreza - 20.8 cu. ft./55.3 cu. ft.
  8. Chevrolet Bolt EV - 16.9 cu. ft./56.6 cu. ft.
  9. Tesla Model S - 5.3 cu. ft. (frunk)/ 30.0 cu. ft./60.2 cu. ft.
  10. Kia Soul - 18.7 to 24.2 cu. ft./62.2 cu. ft.
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Old 10-18-2021, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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According to Automotive News, Mitsubishi Motors CEO Takao Kato said that the company will be pulling back from large global markets such as Europe and China to focus on Southeast Asia and elsewhere. And while it didn't mention the U.S. by name, it later specified to the outlet that America is one of such large markets. Jun 24, 2020

Mitsubushi sales in the US have always been mediocre. By comparison Subaru deliberately chose to concentrate on the US market.

Mitsubushi - Year - Subaru --- ratio
  • 87,386 2020 611,942 700%
  • 121,049 2019 700,117 578%
  • 118,074 2018 680,135 576%
  • 103,686 2017 647,956 625%
  • 97,267 2016 615,132 632%
  • 95,342 2015 582,675 611%
  • 77,643 2014 513,693 662%
  • 62,227 2013 424,683 682%
  • 62,286 2012 336,441 540%
  • 79,016 2011 266,989 338%
  • 55,683 2010 263,820 474%
  • 53,988 2009 216,652 401%
  • 97,258 2008 187,699 193%
  • 128,993 2007 187,208 145%
  • 118,558 2006 200,703 169%
  • 123,995 2005 196,002 158%

Suzuki pulled out of the US automobile market in 2012
Mazda has had it's ups and downs with US automobile sales peaking in 2015 although it looks like 2021 will be a new record
The Eclipse was very popular back in the 1990s. They also made a lot of engines for Chrysler back then.

Their reliability just wasn't on par with other Japanese brands though.
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Old 03-10-2022, 09:24 PM
 
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With gas prices up I wonder if Mitsubishi is selling plenty of Mirage with CVT rated at 36 city and 43 highway?
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