1 out of every 5 Minnesota blacks is unemployed, why is that? (Minneapolis: real estate, crime rate)

[tropolis]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

Similar to Atlanta in that regard. Atlanta spends more per student than most of its surrounding suburban communities, and yet APD schools tend to not do as well as those in the surrounding communities.

There is obviously some factor at work which isn't $$. My own suspicion is that family support for students is a large factor, but that's largely anecdotal on my part.

thats been a big problem.

and its becoming a problem for whites now as well.

out of wedlock births continue to rise regardless of ethnic demographics nationwide.

you cannot have a solid foundation without 2 parents.

unless your teen mom on mtv and getting paid by them.

[briansol]

Originally Posted by Slig

Right, I don't think anyone is arguing the societal issues that come into play here, but how do you explain the fact that Minnesota has a larger gap than other parts of the country?

i'm not from the area, so i really can't comment to that aspect having never been there....

[Citykid3785]

My life got a whole lot easier when I learned about "locus of control." Internal locus of control is the belief that one generally has control over his or her outcomes in life. External locus of control is the belief that outside forces are generally responsible for one's outcomes. Studies show that time and time again that people who adopt an internal locus of control, which is a conscious choice, are better off in life. They find a way to get the job despite circumstance and possible excuses.

My sister and I grew up in the same household with the same opportunities. Somehow she's 32, unemployed, addicted to drugs and living at home. Let's just say she always finds a way to try and explain how she got dealt a bad deck and it's not her fault.

[golfgal]

Originally Posted by Citykid3785

My life got a whole lot easier when I learned about "locus of control." Internal locus of control is the belief that one generally has control over his or her outcomes in life. External locus of control is the belief that outside forces are generally responsible for one's outcomes. Studies show that time and time again that people who adopt an internal locus of control, which is a conscious choice, are better off in life. They find a way to get the job despite circumstance and possible excuses.

My sister and I grew up in the same household with the same opportunities. Somehow she's 32, unemployed, addicted to drugs and living at home. Let's just say she always finds a way to try and explain how she got dealt a bad deck and it's not her fault.

[flip33]

Originally Posted by Citykid3785

My life got a whole lot easier when I learned about "locus of control." Internal locus of control is the belief that one generally has control over his or her outcomes in life. External locus of control is the belief that outside forces are generally responsible for one's outcomes. Studies show that time and time again that people who adopt an internal locus of control, which is a conscious choice, are better off in life. They find a way to get the job despite circumstance and possible excuses.

My sister and I grew up in the same household with the same opportunities. Somehow she's 32, unemployed, addicted to drugs and living at home. Let's just say she always finds a way to try and explain how she got dealt a bad deck and it's not her fault.

It makes perfect sense to me why your life got easier. This is an art. The art of living well!
Bravo to those who are choosing happiness under all circumstances.

[The Button]

Maybe cause they are all foreigners!

[X-Northsider]

Originally Posted by uptown_urbanist

This actually doesn't work out that way in Minneapolis. There historically has been no "white flight" to the suburbs, and many middle class and wealthy families still choose to send their kids to MPS schools.

This is absolutely False. Look at any yearbook from the 70's... Edison,Henry,North,South,Washburn, etc...even Southwest, and look at them in the 90's, and tell me there was NO White Flight.

[uptown_urbanist]

Originally Posted by X-Northsider

This is absolutely False. Look at any yearbook from the 70's... Edison,Henry,North,South,Washburn, etc...even Southwest, and look at them in the 90's, and tell me there was NO White Flight.

That's just as much a reflection of the changing demographics of the city (and metro area) as a whole. Minnesota used to be a very white place; it still is, but the percentage of non-white residents has drastically increased over the past several decades. Take a look at the yearbooks of very white suburbs like Edina and you'll see the same thing -- a much greater diversity today (or in the '90s) relative to what they had in the '70s. That's not to say that there weren't some families who fled to the suburbs (or continue to move farther out) due to concerns about schools or race (and true, saying there was no white flight is a bit of an overstatement), but it was NOTHING like what you find in most larger cities. I think the magnets helped with that, too; MPS had (and has) so many strong magnet options. And certainly a great deal of inequality remained (and remains) in the school district; undoubtedly some parts of the city saw far more "white flight" than did others. (and more applications into other options such as magnets, etc.)

[Seawoman]

I think a lot of it has to do with stereotyping and that Minnesota, for the longest time, was primarily white. How can I say this sensitively? When "outsiders" came in and crime went up, I think people's acceptance of outsiders went down. With this suspicion and a feeling of, hey, you're an outsider, perhaps there is a level of distrust going on and it's just easier for people to hire people like themselves. And people like to hire people like themselves anywhere. The fewer blacks in positions to do the hiring, the more of a disaparity you'll see and this may account for the gap in part.

We can see this happening country-wide, in that the highest number of unemployed are those in the lower and higher age brackets. And this includes all colors. Why? My theory is that people in power aren't at the young end of the spectrum and those over a certain age - well, many retire and a 30 something might not want to hire an older person.

Too, Minnesota has a well-educated workforce and in this market it's quite natural that people would want to get more bang for their buck, so to speak.

[audadvnc]

No white flight? How do you explain Homewood neighborhood? It was a gated, all white community in N Mpls - until the residents all picked up and moved en masse to St. Louis Park in the 50's and 60's. Now, the children of those emigrants are beginning to move back into Homewood.