Dear Minneapolis, Which One Is It? (Welcome: crimes, felony, neighborhoods)

[ArcLyte]

The Minneapolis Mayor, City Council, and Governor of Minnesota should be ashamed of the events that have transpired over the past two evenings.

The police are not even responding to calls from businesses that are being looted by criminals. During the day, people rebuild. At night, the looters come out. The 8 pm curfew has no effect on criminals. Our mayor would rather approach criminals in a hands-off manner, opting for ignoring distressed properties and active acts of violence instead of enforcing the law.

Webster defines law as, "the system of rules which a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties."

Under this definition of law, there are penalties that are associated with specific acts deemed unlawful.

Example 1: Burglary in the second degree is a felony: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...844241920?s=20
Example 2: Robbery is a felony: https://twitter.com/PandaHack0101/st...503866369?s=20
Example 3: Assaulting a peace officer with a burning shopping cart is a felony: https://twitter.com/augrandcoeur/sta...125225473?s=20

The above statues are easily searchable through our Office of the Revisor of Statues. These are published online so that anyone can review the statues to understand our laws.

If we live in a system of law, then we must strive to protect the sanctity of those laws. A system without laws is not a community.

For the past few evenings, I have yet to see any of our laws enforced. The three examples above are simply the tip of the iceberg. A quick internet search shows examples of arson and other atrocities being committed, such as the livestream last night which showed protestors shooting (yes, with real bullets) at peace officers. These events, again, are felonies.

The only conclusion that I can get to is that our system of laws are no longer recognizable. This is especially surprising as Mr. Frey holds a Juris Doctor from Villanova University.

This begs an important question: either we as a society are okay without law, or we are seeing a failure in leadership. I would like to think that most people would consider themselves to be law-abiding individuals. That is, they try to follow the rule of law to the best of their abilities.

At this point, it’s hard to understand why we are seeing no action from the police. Crimes are being committed with impunity for the aggressors. The same businesses that pay their taxes to ensure that their offices would be protected in a time of need are seeing their very city turn it’s back on it's obligation to protect. If the city will not protect the organizations and people that it serves, then we no longer have a city. We have mayhem. And that’s where we are at now.

Let's see what tonight brings.

[Harrier1962]

Originally Posted by ArcLyte

The Minneapolis Mayor, City Council, and Governor of Minnesota should be ashamed of the events that have transpired over the past two evenings.

The police are not even responding to calls from businesses that are being looted by criminals. During the day, people rebuild. At night, the looters come out. The 8 pm curfew has no effect on criminals. Our mayor would rather approach criminals in a hands-off manner, opting for ignoring distressed properties and active acts of violence instead of enforcing the law.

Webster defines law as, "the system of rules which a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties."

Under this definition of law, there are penalties that are associated with specific acts deemed unlawful.

Example 1: Burglary in the second degree is a felony: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...844241920?s=20
Example 2: Robbery is a felony: https://twitter.com/PandaHack0101/st...503866369?s=20
Example 3: Assaulting a peace officer with a burning shopping cart is a felony: https://twitter.com/augrandcoeur/sta...125225473?s=20

The above statues are easily searchable through our Office of the Revisor of Statues. These are published online so that anyone can review the statues to understand our laws.

If we live in a system of law, then we must strive to protect the sanctity of those laws. A system without laws is not a community.

For the past few evenings, I have yet to see any of our laws enforced. The three examples above are simply the tip of the iceberg. A quick internet search shows examples of arson and other atrocities being committed, such as the livestream last night which showed protestors shooting (yes, with real bullets) at peace officers. These events, again, are felonies.

The only conclusion that I can get to is that our system of laws are no longer recognizable. This is especially surprising as Mr. Frey holds a Juris Doctor from Villanova University.

This begs an important question: either we as a society are okay without law, or we are seeing a failure in leadership. I would like to think that most people would consider themselves to be law-abiding individuals. That is, they try to follow the rule of law to the best of their abilities.

At this point, it’s hard to understand why we are seeing no action from the police. Crimes are being committed with impunity for the aggressors. The same businesses that pay their taxes to ensure that their offices would be protected in a time of need are seeing their very city turn it’s back on it's obligation to protect. If the city will not protect the organizations and people that it serves, then we no longer have a city. We have mayhem. And that’s where we are at now.

Let's see what tonight brings.

I agree on many different levels.

Let me begin by asking a few questions about the destruction of the 3rd Precinct of the Minneapolis Police Department.

First, I'm assuming that all firearms and ammunition were removed from the building before the anarchists entered and took over the building?

Second, was all evidence seized from ongoing police investigations (drugs, money, etc...) removed from the building before the anarchists entered and took over the building?

Finally, what happened to the records stored at that police precinct--paper records and files as well as computer records. Were those all removed before the precinct was allowed to be overrun? Were arrest histories, fingerprint cards, and other documents compromised?

This is all very disturbing and troubling. Minneapolis is a major U.S. city. Not a third world country. That precinct should have been defended as if it were the White House.

Goodnight and good luck.

[ersatz]

Originally Posted by ArcLyte

The police are not even responding to calls from businesses that are being looted by criminals. During the day, people rebuild. At night, the looters come out. The 8 pm curfew has no effect on criminals. Our mayor would rather approach criminals in a hands-off manner, opting for ignoring distressed properties and active acts of violence instead of enforcing the law.

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At this point, it’s hard to understand why we are seeing no action from the police. Crimes are being committed with impunity for the aggressors. The same businesses that pay their taxes to ensure that their offices would be protected in a time of need are seeing their very city turn it’s back on it's obligation to protect. If the city will not protect the organizations and people that it serves, then we no longer have a city. We have mayhem. And that’s where we are at now.

Suggest you read https://www.city-data.com/forum/minn...or-ground.html

[jacktravern]

If anything these riots , now and before make people think they need to be careful what they wish for. All the cop haters out there, that hate "snitching" and hard law enforcement and say they don't need or want cops in their area------well this is what things look like with no policing. Basically a throwback to feudal times where you must protect your own property.

[ben young]

From 1500 miles away the police station being overrun looked like a third.world riot in fact it looked like a police station in South Africa during the Mandela RIOTS

[Tyryztoll]

Originally Posted by ben young

From 1500 miles away the police station being overrun looked like a third.world riot in fact it looked like a police station in South Africa during the Mandela RIOTS

Welcome to the City of Lakes! Jacob Frey, Mayor.

[Jardine8]

It happened during the L.A. riots of 1992, though those riots didn't last as long as the riots were seeing currently in this country. I have been going back and reviewing what happened during those riots, just to get a sense of how they compare.

Business owners during the L.A. riots in 1992 were not protected either. A lot of time during these various riots are spent talking about racial issues, particularly between African Americans and whites in this country. However, there are other racial/ethnic groups in our country and they sometimes get overlooked. In reviewing the L.A. riots, I ran across stories of Koreans in south-central Los Angeles during the riots basically being abandoned by law enforcement and deciding that they would have to be responsible for protecting themselves and their property. Below is an article that details how one group of Koreans reacted to the riots and decided that they weren't just going to cede their businesses to rioters and looters and decided to do whatever it took to protect them.

In reading this article, I tried to put myself in the position of the Koreans in L.A. during this time period. Many of them lived through the Korean War in South Korea, moved to the U.S. sometime after the war and many came with very little. As a result, they settled and opened businesses in the few areas that they could afford - poor, dangerous neighborhoods in Los Angeles, Chicago, etc. They just wanted to come here and make a living for their families and those businesses were the way they provided for their families.

I can understand the anger about the beating of Rodney King, the awful acquittal of the officers responsible and anger towards the white community. However, the Koreans had nothing to do with what happened and nothing to do with any the historical racial issues between blacks and whites in America. Still, they found themselves on the receiving end of violence during the riots and became targets. They felt abandoned by the police, who they believed had a duty to protect citizens and their property. Since the police abandoned them, they decided to take action and protect themselves and their property. The article is worth a read.


https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...281-story.html

[ben young]

This heroic event has given rise to the phrase of a person protecting their uninsured property during a riot.
" A Rooftop Korean "