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Old 11-20-2023, 08:36 AM
 
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"If people didn't hire illegals, most of them wouldn't be here."

And where did you come up with this definitive claim?

How many, exactly, out of the "As of June 2023, FAIR estimates that approximately 16.8 million illegal aliens reside in the United States.", illegals have you talked to with about this?

.https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal...es-2023-update
Yale/MIT published a study concerning illegal immigration in 2018, and the report claimed that the number of illegal immigrants in the US was closer to 22 million by the end of 2016.

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insigh...ious-estimates

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While the logic is simple—tally the inflows and outflows over time—actually gathering, assessing, and inserting the data appropriately into a mathematical model isn’t at all simple. Because there is significant uncertainty, the results are presented as a range. After running 1,000,000 simulations of the model, the researchers’ 95% probability range is 16 million to 29 million, with 22.1 million as the mean.

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The paper examines the years 1990 to 2016. The initial population is a key component of all subsequent years’ calculations; Fazel‐Zarandi explains that the team chose 1990 as a starting point because it fell between the amnesty President Reagan offered for undocumented immigrants in 1986 and the rapid growth of illegal immigration in the 1990s.
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Old 11-20-2023, 12:04 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Lol, 200 illegals.

That's what crosses the Texas border every 10 minutes or less.

Better start hiring Hispanic teachers and training your medical staff Spanish.
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Old 11-20-2023, 07:12 PM
 
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Lol, 200 illegals.

That's what crosses the Texas border every 10 minutes or less.

Better start hiring Hispanic teachers and training your medical staff Spanish.
Empirically speaking, I'd say MD has at least 500k illegals. The majority are probably located in the 2 counties bordering Washington, DC. That said, 200 doesn't amount to much, and no one would notice if the targeted county wasn't located north of Baltimore.

Not so sure about the need to hire Hispanic teachers. I see many Hispanic teenagers playing hooky every day.
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Old 11-21-2023, 02:32 PM
 
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Yale/MIT published a study concerning illegal immigration in 2018, and the report claimed that the number of illegal immigrants in the US was closer to 22 million by the end of 2016.

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insigh...ious-estimates
Yale, no bias here!

"Yale University: Conservatives Not Welcome"

"The Yale Daily News, Yale University’s student publication, reports that nearly 75 percent of Yale’s student body believes the campus community is an unwelcome environment for conservative opinions."

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Old 11-22-2023, 08:19 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Declaring yourself as a sanctuary should mean something. Let them be sanctuaries, it's what these duly elected politicians said these areas should be during the elections they won.
Exactly. Not that anyone else should pay for the signal of virtue.
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Old 11-22-2023, 11:11 AM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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If people didn't hire illegals, most of them wouldn't be here. So my question is why aren't the people hiring illegals on the hook for housing and feeding them?
They should be. I live in Hartford County and I'm almost positive that illegals are here working. Almost definitely some are working maintenance on apartment buildings and in restaurants. I'm glad this offer was refused and hope it doesn't come up again. Most of us here are law abiding citizens, it's safe here (outside of the city of Hartford), we don't have a gun problem because we have pretty good laws about that, and if something or someone is illegal we do not want it! No one even checks these people for disease, criminal background or any of the rest of the issues that a LEGAL immigant gets checked for. But the Big Guys don't seem to care, do they? Our federal government does nothing about it.
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Old 11-22-2023, 01:18 PM
 
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Re: Post #16 --- This thread is about Harford County in MD.

https://www.harfordcountymd.gov/

That said, it doesn't surprise me to learn that CT is inundated with so-called "migrants".
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Old 11-22-2023, 01:49 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Re: Post #16 --- This thread is about Harford County in MD.

https://www.harfordcountymd.gov/

That said, it doesn't surprise me to learn that CT is inundated with so-called "migrants".
HA! Glad it's a different Hartford County and I hope it is NEVER the Hartford County where I live. We're not near NYC and they would have no business to ship illegals to us. I don't think the rich, snooty CT towns down by NYC would want them either. Wrong is wrong! Glad MD didn't get them either.
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Old 11-22-2023, 02:08 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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HA! Glad it's a different Hartford County and I hope it is NEVER the Hartford County where I live. We're not near NYC and they would have no business to ship illegals to us. I don't think the rich, snooty CT towns down by NYC would want them either. Wrong is wrong! Glad MD didn't get them either.
Oh, we're getting them. Just not, at least right now, in Harford County. I expect that to change by the end of January when the Legislature convenes for its ninety day session.
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Old 11-22-2023, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"If people didn't hire illegals, most of them wouldn't be here."

And where did you come up with this definitive claim?

How many, exactly, out of the "As of June 2023, FAIR estimates that approximately 16.8 million illegal aliens reside in the United States.", illegals have you talked to with about this?

.https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal...es-2023-update

*sigh* Here we go again. I'll just repost this from one of the other threads I put it on. Why is it you guys just can't believe illegals work for a living, even if it's under the table? How do you think they get food and shelter? Osmosis?

This is from 2020.

https://www.americanprogress.org/pre...-report-shows/
  • More than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants work in construction, accounting for 13 percent of all construction workers.
  • Nearly 1 million undocumented immigrants work in accommodation and food services, approximately 8.4 percent of all workers in the industr
  • 710,000 undocumented workers make up 10 percent of the administrative and support and waste management industries, and another 489,000 undocumented workers in nonpublic administration services are also overrepresented in the field.
  • Approximately 25 percent of workers in farming, fishing, and forestry occupations are undocumented—although this is likely an undercount—as are 16 percent of workers in construction and extraction occupations.
  • 15 percent of workers in building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations are undocumented.
  • 7 percent of workers in food preparation and serving-related occupations are undocumented.
  • 7 percent of workers in production occupations are undocumented.
  • 6 percent of workers in transportation and material moving occupations are undocumented.
  • Nearly 1 in 5 landscaping workers, maids or housekeepers, and construction laborers are undocumented immigrants.
  • Nearly 30 percent of agricultural workers or painters are undocumented.
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