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Old 03-02-2024, 07:31 AM
 
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Unfortunately it doesn't mention how many years it takes to earn back the investment after subtracting all the available grants. One home owner paid $6000 out of pocket and had $6000 in grants, so I wonder how long it would take her to recoup her investment compared to oil.
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Old 03-03-2024, 07:23 AM
 
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I live in the mid Atlantic area I bought my home a 4 bedroom 3bath split Foyer home in 1988 and have had 3 heat pumps systems in that time, we don't have natural gas here and no place for oil tanks. Heat pumps are fine for where I live and it still gets cold around here (teens once in awhile) but I admit I would question a Heat pump system in Maine and I put in a brand new system a year ago. If you have a generator and have a good electrical source but if your power is out it gets cold fast , real fast.
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Old 03-03-2024, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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I live in the mid Atlantic area I bought my home a 4 bedroom 3bath split Foyer home in 1988 and have had 3 heat pumps systems in that time, we don't have natural gas here and no place for oil tanks. Heat pumps are fine for where I live and it still gets cold around here (teens once in awhile) but I admit I would question a Heat pump system in Maine and I put in a brand new system a year ago. If you have a generator and have a good electrical source but if your power is out it gets cold fast , real fast.
Agree that traditional heat pumps aren't appropriate for the Maine climate. However, there are some special cold climate heat pumps that have been developed in the past 15 years that are good down to much lower temperatures than traditional heat pumps. The Hyperheat system from Mitsubishi and the XLTH (Extra Low Temperature Heating) system from Fujitsu have been the systems of choice for years, and work down to about -10 to -15F.

The Dept of Energy has recently been working with American manufacturers to try to get this kind of capacity from American manufacturers like Carrier, Trane and Lennox, and that effort has borne fruit in their development pipelines, and it looks like they will hit the market within a year or two.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/building...pump-challenge
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Old 03-03-2024, 11:19 AM
 
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More than one heat source in a home can be a good idea for Maine. Heat is important when outside temps are below freezing. One day in the winter of 23-24, the temp dipped to -45°. A friend has a propane heater that doesn't require electricity. Another friend has a heat pump, pellet stove, and oil furnace. Another friend has a wood stove in their basement and an oil furnace. (Oil tanks in basements) I read that about 60% of Mainers have generators. Heat pumps include the convenience of AC in case a wicked hot summer day arrives. Imo tax credits for energy efficient heat pumps are great incentives.
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Old 03-04-2024, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Free Palestine, Ohio!
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Imo tax credits for energy efficient heat pumps are great incentives.
So why should tax payers be on the hook to help pay for it? I need a new oil fired boiler and don't expect my neighbors to subsidize it.
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:11 PM
 
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So why should tax payers be on the hook to help pay for it? I need a new oil fired boiler and don't expect my neighbors to subsidize it.
How is a "Tax credit" subsidizing his heat pump , tax payers aren't on the hook for anything. It's your choice, if you want the credit it's there for you just buy an efficient heat pump, if you don't keep your oil fired boiler. Not a shot at anyone ,seriously just asking.
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Old 03-04-2024, 02:19 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Any tax credit whether for efficient windows, heat pump, EV or anything else is paid for by the U.S. Government, whose only source of revenue is us. We have the option of not taking these credits, but we are paying for them.
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Old 03-04-2024, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Maine
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So why should tax payers be on the hook to help pay for it? I need a new oil fired boiler and don't expect my neighbors to subsidize it.
I don't expect my neighbors to buy me anything, but I'd happily accept some of my own money back in a rebate.
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Old 03-04-2024, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... Heat pumps are fine for where I live and it still gets cold around here (teens once in awhile) but I admit I would question a Heat pump system in Maine and I put in a brand new system a year ago. If you have a generator and have a good electrical source but if your power is out it gets cold fast , real fast.

Hmm, in one sentence you said that it gets down to teens 'once in a while'.

Then later you said that it gets cold fast.

Those statements are contradictory.

If it only ever goes into the teens then it clearly never gets cold.
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Old 03-04-2024, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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So why should tax payers be on the hook to help pay for it? I need a new oil fired boiler and don't expect my neighbors to subsidize it.
And yet it happens.

We have a friend who got a replacement furnace and a new roof using 'emergency' COVID funds.

The plannedemic has been a goldmine for lots of folks.
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