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Nope because our high healthcare cost are mainly driven by ppl with multiple comorbidities, that actually do not have access or utilize their PCP for routine check ups. This demographic is something like 20%(?) in size but utilizes nearly 80% of healthcare expenses. That is why there is an initiative to push more NP, PA and MD towards the PCP track.
This is because Americans spend the most money after you are sick, but not much for preventative. Meanwhile, countries like Europe and Canada focus on prevention. Obama and Biden goal is to get more ppl on so that they can move away from the current situation - cause taking ppl off exacerbates the situation even more. Again, most illegal immigrants cant afford to take a day off for fear of losing work - they are not are not your real enemy and neither are those that go to the ED as primary care.
“Meanwhile, countries like Europe and Canada focus on prevention. Obama and Biden goal is to get more ppl on so that they can move away from the current situation “
Are you blind or just can’t read? Or maybe legal jargon just confuses you. The link you posted makes it very clear I’m correct. Being unlawfully present by law in the US makes you deportable (by either overstay or illegal entry without inspection) in that link it’s spelled out. Where you need cause is if an alien is LEGALLY present, say with a green card, or protected status, in that case the alien would have to have committed and convicted of certain class of crimes to be removable.
Deportable aliens:
(A) Inadmissible aliens
Any alien who at the time of entry or adjustment of status was within one or more of the classes of aliens inadmissible by the law existing at such time is deportable.
(B) PRESENT in violation of law
Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this chapter or any other law of the United States, or whose nonimmigrant visa (or other documentation authorizing admission into the United States as a nonimmigrant) has been revoked under section 1201(i) of this title, is deportable.
A and B covers about 95% of illegals. That’s all the “cause” that is needed under the INA
I understand it clearly. The US however has to prove they are here unlawfully first to satisfy the condition. So until that is established they technically are not deportable. Even overstay and illegal entry without inspection has to be proven first - due process before they are deportable.
A = inadmissable is actually not wrong but not right
B = in violation of the law again has to be proven first
“Meanwhile, countries like Europe and Canada focus on prevention. Obama and Biden goal is to get more ppl on so that they can move away from the current situation “
Please reread, the link that you provided. It cites the top income tax rate for each individual country not the base minimum. Also, Europe has an awesome transport system, 1 yr time off for a mom to bond with child, 2 months off a year, free education, pension system. It is a trade off, but not nearly as awful as you make it to seem.
NY is pretty sheltered in regards to healthcare cost. Other states I have traveled to have high premiums with a deductible. CT- healthcare worker in a hospital had 3k deductible as a standard. CA - PA had a 10k deductible. Both are norms apparently, that will likely come to NY shortly.
Not sure where you got your that from but they have different plans with different price points.
True. But would my healthcare go down? As they use the ER as their primary care with ZERO ID to pay? Would our taxes go down, 15K per year to send a kid to school. Along with all the other benefit programs we pay for?
What would happen is lots of people would suddenly be out of work.
I have inside info with both healthcare and Schools. I can tell that without immigrant children many teachers and other union workers would be out of a job. It would collapse. The supply chain is long. Blue collar workers like truck drivers, warehouse , buildings and grounds and on down the line would be cut. Those salaries gone and that money gone from our local.economy. real estate would take a big hit..... We just don't have big families anymore.
Taxes never go down..lol. healthcare costs would increase due to having to pay people of European heritage the wages they demand rather than the low wages immigrants and illegals are greatful to receive .
What would happen is lots of people would suddenly be out of work.
I have inside info with both healthcare and Schools. I can tell that without immigrant children many teachers and other union workers would be out of a job. It would collapse. The supply chain is long. Blue collar workers like truck drivers, warehouse , buildings and grounds and on down the line would be cut. Those salaries gone and that money gone from our local.economy. real estate would take a big hit..... We just don't have big families anymore.
Taxes never go down..lol. healthcare costs would increase due to having to pay people of European heritage the wages they demand rather than the low wages immigrants and illegals are greatful to receive .
This has to be one the top 10 most ridiculous comments I have ever seen on city data. Most illegals live in specific school districts on LI, Hempstead, Brentwood, CI, Huntington, South Huntington, Westbury to name a few. The RE markets wouldn't skip a beat, they are renting homes not buying and are living in lower priced homes that will sell anyways to due to more affordable prices. The people selling in Jericho or Commack don't give a crap about the markets in towns with a bunch of illegals. It has nothing to do with them.
Sure removing illegals would hurt businesses where they live. Once again its isolated areas. So the townships and county gov generates less sales tax, they also have less people to provide services to. Districts have had declining enrollments for a decade and have not cut teachers. Sure maybe Westbury etc would have a problem. Once again it all goes back to that illegals live in certain neighborhoods and the majority of LI doesn't live in those towns.
Legal and illegal immigrants send record amounts back to home country (pre-pandemic). The remittances exceed the total of USA foreign aid to some countries.
"Central Americans are sending home billions of dollars, giving poor governments there little incentive to improve social safety nets for the working class leaving for the U.S.
In 2017, El Salvador brought in a record $792 million from foreign direct investment, according to the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development, or UNCTAD. It is unclear if that includes remittances from their people living abroad. If it did, or if it did not it doesn't matter here. El Salvadoreans sent home a record breaking $534.2 million as of December 2018, according to that country's central bank.
Guatemala FDI was $1.14 billion in 2017. That's chump change compared to what their foreign workers are sending home to family. Last year, they sent a record breaking $9.3 billion in remittances, according to the Bank of Guatemala."
Harris has indicated that she intends to focus on improving the local economies as an immigration control device. I'm not sure that the local governments would agree with her given how much money foreign nationals send home.
I understand it clearly. The US however has to prove they are here unlawfully first to satisfy the condition. So until that is established they technically are not deportable. Even overstay and illegal entry without inspection has to be proven first - due process before they are deportable.
A = inadmissable is actually not wrong but not right
B = in violation of the law again has to be proven first
Yes they get due process in immigration court (where the standard of proof is far lower than criminal and much of the burden actually falls on the alien). But so what? There is no other factor other than they are here illegally that needs to be proven (extremely easy in most cases), nothing else need be proven other than unlawful presence here. Bottom line an alien can be arrested an deported just for being here illegally, period. Unless I misunderstood your original implication.
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This has to be one the top 10 most ridiculous comments I have ever seen on city data. Most illegals live in specific school districts on LI, Hempstead, Brentwood, CI, Huntington, South Huntington, Westbury to name a few. The RE markets wouldn't skip a beat, they are renting homes not buying and are living in lower priced homes that will sell anyways to due to more affordable prices. The people selling in Jericho or Commack don't give a crap about the markets in towns with a bunch of illegals. It has nothing to do with them.
Sure removing illegals would hurt businesses where they live. Once again its isolated areas. So the townships and county gov generates less sales tax, they also have less people to provide services to. Districts have had declining enrollments for a decade and have not cut teachers. Sure maybe Westbury etc would have a problem. Once again it all goes back to that illegals live in certain neighborhoods and the majority of LI doesn't live in those towns.
Nassau is full of illegals . Illegal does not mean broke. You think the Asians working in these high end and low end restaurants are broke? Money is being made. Great Neck is a great example. Money is made.. Houses are purchased in cash. You think undocumented don't pay rent? Remove that and economy crashes. It's a well known secret that kids of the undocumented bring the cash to the schools . They keep them open.
Nassau is full of illegals . Illegal does not mean broke. You think the Asians working in these high end and low end restaurants are broke? Money is being made. Great Neck is a great example. Money is made.. Houses are purchased in cash. You think undocumented don't pay rent? Remove that and economy crashes. It's a well known secret that kids of the undocumented bring the cash to the schools . They keep them open.
I gotta say GX is right on this one. Your posts on this are ridiculous and full of hyperbole. Asians? Lol because illegal "Asians" are the "big illegal immigration" problem on LI lol. The vast VAST majority of illegals on LI are from the Triangle countries: El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala. The majority of those coming here from those destitute countries are poor, uneducated, and unskilled. Here most arriving remain poor and live in the same communities: Brentwood (which literally has its own el sal consulate), CI, north bayshore etc. etc. Many live 20 to a house and carry their savings in their pocket.
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Unbelievable!! Just when you think you heard and seen it all then you come read some of these posts. Some of you are literally bat shlit crazy!!
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