Taxes Are Killing Long Island

[kokonutty]

Originally Posted by VA Yankee

And what reference are you pulling from? Based on crime per 1k residents the 2 towns are being judged on 7 & 13 residents, not much of a reference to evaluate on 20 people total.

You guys seem to have a problem with statistics - I don't even know where your "7 & 13 residents" number comes from. Crimes are reported in total numbers and also per 1000 residents so comparisons can be made between places with diverse populations. It appears that you have a problem with the figures that actually exist so you're grasping at straws.

Here are the hard numbers for Charlotte and Stony Brook, the highest crime area of those cited on Long Island in the house comparisons above.

Charlotte: Annual Violent Crime - 5,732 6.93/1000
Annual Property Crime - 31,364 37.92/1000
Total Annual Crime - 37,096 44.85/1000

Stony Brook: Annual Violent Crime - 8 0.58/1000
Annual Property Crime - 208 15.04/1000
Total Annual Crime - 216 15.62/1000

A resident in Charlotte has three times the chance of being a crime victim than a Stony Brook resident and twelve times the chance of being a victim of a violent crime.

By land area, a Charlotte resident has almost four times the chance of being a crime victim than a resident of Stony Brook. 124 crimes per square mile vs. 36 crimes per square mile. By any metric Stony Brook has considerably less crime than Charlotte. Additionally, while Suffolk County crime rates are dropping, North Carolina's are increasing across the board: FBI stats: Violent crime rises overall in North Carolina | WNCN

What about by county? Suffolk has 1,492,583 people by census estimate for 2016; Charlotte-Mecklenberg has 1,054,835; making Suffolk 41% larger by population. Land area is 524 square miles for Charlotte-Mecklenberg, 912 for Suffolk, 74% larger. FBI figures show total crime in 2016 was 35,619 incidents in C-M vs. 22,198 in Suffolk. That's 60% worse in raw numbers without accounting for the population or area difference.

Equalizing by population, crime incidents in Charlotte-Mecklenberg are 226% of those in Suffolk, 279% if you want to judge by square mile. The difference is measurably larger in violent crimes than in property crimes.

These are the statistics, they are objective, taken from FBI reports and census data. They show the same trend whether taken for small areas or large and they all show that Suffolk County has less crime of all types than Charlotte, North Carolina. That's just the way it is. Sorry if it destroys all those preconceptions so common here.

[markjames68]

The one problem with your statistics is that you generalize “Charlotte”. As I don’t know Charlotte but do know NYC, I know for example to stay out of certain neighborhoods after dark (or even during the day). It could be like other major metros where the downtown has a lot of crime but the suburbs are safer, or certain suburbs are safer.

It could be like lumping Stony Brook with Brentwood and CI.

I am not, BTW, disputing that SB and Northport are safe areas.

[manekeniko]

Depends on how you frame it.

Most crime in places like Charlotte are petty theft, car theft, car break-ins, etc. I accept that I may be more likely to be a victim of theft after I move. This means that once in a blue moon some hood may relieve me of $200 or so and an old laptop I bought from eBay. I've observed life in these places and that's what most crime amounts to. Living here, it's guaranteed the local criminal enterprise called the government will relieve me of many thousands more. Every year.