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Old 05-01-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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Yes, I know, thanks. The point I'm getting at is when I try to conduct my own search and pull up either the school report card or test scores, it only shows the test results and other stats for 7th and 8th grade ONLY. How can I see results for test and other stats for each individual grade the way they break down 7&8?

Now the college thing has me wondering-what if students decide to attend college, let's say, 2 or 5 years after they graduated high school? Is that tracked in these rankings or are the college rankings based on college attendance IMMEDIATELY after high school? Know what I'm sayin'?
As far as I know, you can only go by regents for HS
https://reportcards.nysed.gov/files/...0252070004.pdf

On the tracking question, it only records 2010-2011 completers.

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Old 05-01-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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As far as I know, you can only go by regents for HS
https://reportcards.nysed.gov/files/...0252070004.pdf

On the tracking question, it only records 2010-2011 completers.

Ahh, got it. So if students decide to go to college, lets say, 2 years after HS, then they totally screwed up the school ranking LOL
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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Awesome Mac Arthur High School in Levittown came in at 85.2.
Yes, something positive for my 7% tax increase (even though I voted for a 3%increase). I am surprised that:

a) beat Wantagh and Seaford
b) Division and Island Trees so much farther down the list.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Ahh, got it. So if students decide to go to college, lets say, 2 years after HS, then they totally screwed up the school ranking LOL
Another thing to consider, most of the middle to lower middle class areas have a high 2year college enrollment for a reason. Not everyone can afford a 500k home and not everyone can afford 25k a year to send their kids to a state school forget about top ranked. I don't see how these aspects makes one better than the other.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Thanks Pequa.

That's also why Mount Sinai SD ranks higher. They have no special needs programs.
I thought this list was set up so that the special needs population didn't skew the data. Pequa?
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Another thing to consider, most of the middle to lower middle class areas have a high 2year college enrollment for a reason. Not everyone can afford a 500k home and not everyone can afford 25k a year to send their kids to a state school forget about top ranked. I don't see how these aspects makes one better than the other.
I completely agree, that's why I think including the college enrollment, or maybe lack of college enrollment, shouldn't be used in these rankings. I know kids who graduated from lower income high schools and went off to 4 yr colleges on scholarships. I also know kids who barely graduated from the higher ranking schools and basically bummed around.
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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I completely agree, that's why I think including the college enrollment, or maybe lack of college enrollment, shouldn't be used in these rankings. I know kids who graduated from lower income high schools and went off to 4 yr colleges on scholarships. I also know kids who barely graduated from the higher ranking schools and basically bummed around.
Every list out there uses 4-year as the biggest variable. Some use it as high as 33-50%. This one is 20-25% and incorporates 2-year into the mix. Think of it this way: Even if you take out the 4-year data, do you think the list will look much different?

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I thought this list was set up so that the special needs population didn't skew the data. Pequa?
I'm a little confused by Lancet's comment as well. I'm assuming he means it allows schools like Mount Sinai to focus more of their resources into General Ed programs? Not sure.
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Glen Head, NY
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i still don't understand escalating drop-out rates. i don't know anyone in 25 years who has dropped out of hs
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:02 AM
 
Location: New York
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Tnx for posting,

Glad to see plainview up there!
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Every list out there uses 4-year as the biggest variable. Some use it as high as 33-50%. This one is 20-25% and incorporates 2-year into the mix. Think of it this way: Even if you take out the 4-year data, do you think the list will look much different?



I'm a little confused by Lancet's comment as well. I'm assuming he means it allows schools like Mount Sinai to focus more of their resources into General Ed programs? Not sure.
Hmmm, it's possible, no? If only 59% going on to 4-year College and 54% with advanced regents designation is true or accurate then wouldn't removing that low percentage increase the score? It only takes 1 low score to affect the overall average. If I consistently maintain B's and B+'s but I fail 1 test or get a C, it will lower my average, right? The variable also excludes students who are not going into 4 yr colleges but are joining the military and THEN getting a college education. Gotta love metrics
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