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Old 08-25-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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I could be wrong but there were no embedded videos. If you clicked on a video, a player like Real player would appear and play it. Didn't Microsoft buy some video player and braded it as their own?

Frames. Remember frames, some users hated them and others thought they were a good way of doing menus etc.

There was a way to right click on most pages and a popup would tell you the last update date. That never happened again and I don't know why.

Yahoo returned results in categories. There was a way to do it without categories. I never used Google until 2000.

Lots of text links had bullets next to them.

Myspace pages had ridiculous backgrounds rendering the text almost unreadable.

Lots of web pages had repeating backgrounds.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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I could be wrong but there were no embedded videos. If you clicked on a video, a player like Real player would appear and play it. Didn't Microsoft buy some video player and braded it as their own?
There is no way to reliably embed a video in a web page with HTML4 which is still used on most pages.There is two issues, firstly the video itself has a codec. If you don't have the codec installed you can't watch the video. Back then the only thing that might be considered a universal platform independent codec was MPEG1 but as a format for web streaming it required far too much bandwidth.

The second issue is there is no standard in HTML4 for video and audio. Even if you get beyond the codec issue what may work in one browser may not work in another.

Real player bridged those gaps, becsue you're not embedding the video. You're embedding the player that is independent of the OS and browser. They dropped the ball though because that player turned into an enormous piece of bloatware/spyware/<insert something you don't like> and flash quickly over took them. That's why real player is just a footnote.


With HTML 5 there is now standards and the flash player will go the way of the RealPlayer at least as far as the delivery of video and audio is concerned.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:45 PM
 
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Re my OP, Windows Media Player was always made by Microsoft.
Wasn't there some popular video or audio player not by Microsoft but then MS bought it??

Also, MIDI files. It always sounded like the same instrument and the files were small.
There were so many memorial pages for Princess Diana, that would play midi files.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:29 PM
 
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Also, MIDI files. It always sounded like the same instrument and the files were small.
There were so many memorial pages for Princess Diana, that would play midi files.
Midi files are not recordings, they are a set of instructions that could be applied to any number of different "instruments". A good analogy here is the roll of paper a player piano would use. This is how many things are created on the web to preserve bandwidth becsue the instructions may be only a few K to reproduce what may take MB's if it were video or audio. For example if you created a flash animation and wanted to move an object from one side of the frame to the other you could create a conventional video file that basically consists of hundred or even thousands of images but that is going to have a very large file size. On the other hand you could have a single object with some instruction for flash player to move it from one side to the other.
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Old 08-25-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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Midi was the one thing Leo LaPorte could never get his head around. He would get a generic soundcard and cheap speakers and then say "Well those midis all sound cheap and tinny!" Ya think?
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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I spent hours on line at night on aol mostly chatting with guys.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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1997 ?

I had buddies who were 'online' in 1983.

I got into playing multi-player games in 1991 on the FIDO BBS's
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Lightning fast download speeds in text-only browsing at freenets. Click a page and it's there in a quarter of a second, none of these two and three second waits for pages to load.
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:01 PM
 
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With HTML 5 there is now standards and the flash player will go the way of the RealPlayer at least as far as the delivery of video and audio is concerned.
For this to be true, HTML5 would have to be finalized. It's still a draft and this there are no standards. There's only proposals which have been adopted.
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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I could be wrong but there were no embedded videos. If you clicked on a video, a player like Real player would appear and play it. Didn't Microsoft buy some video player and braded it as their own?
I got cable internet in 1996 (had dialup and ISDN prior) provided via Comcast by a company that would name itself @home later that year. This was in the internet started screaming for me. Video player plugins were embedded in webpages that enabled video in very much the same way flash does today. These included Windows media player, real player, quicktime, and others that were less popular (and quite annoying).
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Frames. Remember frames, some users hated them and others thought they were a good way of doing menus etc.
Frames are more popular today than ever... they are just used different and certainly not for navigation.
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There was a way to right click on most pages and a popup would tell you the last update date. That never happened again and I don't know why.
This I don't remember.
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Yahoo returned results in categories. There was a way to do it without categories. I never used Google until 2000.
What I remember about Yahoo was that they would not specify a background color on their pages. So if you used IE, AOL Browser or @home browser, the background would be a default white... but on Netscape, the backgound would be a default gray.

I didn't start using Google until 2000 and what sold me was that it was extremely fast compared to other search engines.
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Lots of text links had bullets next to them.

Myspace pages had ridiculous backgrounds rendering the text almost unreadable.
MySpace came around 2003/4 and reminded me of Geocities.
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Lots of web pages had repeating backgrounds.
Many had animated gifs, woot!
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