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Old 11-20-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: California
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That new plan doesn't work right. Do your parents really NEED a double wall oven and seperate cooktop? If they haven't had it up until now they probably don't. You would have more flexability and would save a lot of counterrspace if you just had a traditional oven/cooktop and the TRIANGLE.

I'd put the sink and DW at the END of the run, and try not to have an appliance on the other side of the island. Worst case, if they needed a double wall oven I'd put that on it's own instead of the fridge.
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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Horrible.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Prospect, KY
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So everyone is alright with having the lone refrigerator across the room? Not only does it look odd, but it isn't practical.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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So everyone is alright with having the lone refrigerator across the room? Not only does it look odd, but it isn't practical.
Ours is set up this way and it works really well actually. Depending on the length of the wall the fridge is on, I would add more cabinetry to that wall--we have pantry cabinet, fridge, desk with cabinets above along our "lone" wall. It's nice because it doesn't crowd everything in one area and we can take things out of the fridge and just put things on the island to get ready to prep for meals. Most of the other food is in the pantry next to the fridge so it's all together basically.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Do your parents really NEED a double wall oven and seperate cooktop? If they haven't had it up until now they probably don't.
Mother has a bad back. She has one of those 80's style stoves with the oven on top and bottom and barley ever uses the bottom. So yes, they want it.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I can only assume Connecticut has no code inspections. Down here in Texas, that is a code violation. I'd suggest moving the sink to the D/W location and the D/W to the end of the cabinets. That would give you far more working and effective counter space. While the fluff at the frig looks neat, unless there is a means of venting the frig, frig life will be short. I've seen nothing but issues with units built in including the first house I built for me. And that frig vented to a utility room but was still not enough.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:30 PM
 
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I can only assume Connecticut has no code inspections. Down here in Texas, that is a code violation. I'd suggest moving the sink to the D/W location and the D/W to the end of the cabinets. That would give you far more working and effective counter space. While the fluff at the frig looks neat, unless there is a means of venting the frig, frig life will be short. I've seen nothing but issues with units built in including the first house I built for me. And that frig vented to a utility room but was still not enough.
What is not to code in that diagram?
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:50 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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So everyone is alright with having the lone refrigerator across the room? Not only does it look odd, but it isn't practical.

Nope... I'm with you.

I personally would not want a fridge set-up like that.
I NEED - yes, need, not want - counter spaces near the fridge to place things on while loading/unloading.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Counter-depth fridges do not start at 5 grand unless they have gone up a couple thousand dollars in the last 3 years. We have bought counter-depth fridges for our last two houses and paid less than $3,000 - both are around 25 cf. Our last home had a kitchen that was gutted to the studs and remodeled - a cabinet was built to house the counter-depth fridge and everything fit perfectly. I like how tall the counter-depth fridges are and would never go back to a kitchen where the fridge protrudes into any open area.

The other thing is - if you buy all or most of your appliances from one source, be sure to ask for a 10% discount. We asked and received a 10% discount while buying appliances for our last two kitchens.

I also disagree that the perfect working triangle is difficult to achieve. My last two kitchens have had the perfect working triangle - no more than 2 steps to anything I need while cooking - both are spacious kitchens.
Oh yes, I agree...

I absolutely hate refridgerators, I think they are the most ugliest things one can have in a house, and obviouslt you need it. I have also been noticing that now a days they are even bigger and clunkier... blech!!

They all should have been made counter depth since the beginning of time.....counter depth is the only type fridge that doesn't look half bad. The best is to get fridges with the cabinet fronts.....

the first picture the poster has with the fridge sticking out like a sore thumb in the middle is awful.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Could do something like this. The part without the wall oven is actually almost exactly like my kitchen (which is in a 2010 built home).

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