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Old 04-03-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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My fingers are crossed that it will take too much time to completely dismantle Obamacare that ...
Looks as if it'll be delayed until after the 2020 election. https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...s=mcnewsletter
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:39 AM
 
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Looks as if it'll be delayed until after the 2020 election. https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...s=mcnewsletter
Who says the courts will wait until after 2020?
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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Who says the courts will wait until after 2020?
A problem for Trump is that the litigation could take months to resolve — or longer — and there’s no guarantee he’ll get the outcomes he wants before the 2020 election.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ts_139921.html
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Old 04-04-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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A problem for Trump is that the litigation could take months to resolve — or longer — and there’s no guarantee he’ll get the outcomes he wants before the 2020 election.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ts_139921.html
That's what I was thinking. However, surely the current court will decide before 2020.
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Old 04-05-2019, 04:58 PM
 
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I don't think ACA will go away, I think there is a good possibility the supplements (discounts) will be eliminated. Which is a real bummer for those of us with pre-existing who are a decade away from Medicare.
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:02 PM
 
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A problem for Trump is that the litigation could take months to resolve — or longer — and there’s no guarantee he’ll get the outcomes he wants before the 2020 election.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ts_139921.html
The way I interpret that statement after reading the article is that the courts COULD strike down Obamacare sometime before the 2020 election; however, the time between that decision and the election will not be enough time to get a new health care law passed. That article states: "Trump seems unfazed by the potential risks".

I'm thinking that Trump doesn't expect the court to strike down the law. He wants to amp up the rhetoric to show he's still trying to keep a campaign promise and repeal Obamacare. However, he now risks a total calamity it the court DOES strike down Obamacare before the election, causing complete havoc in the individual insurance market. I don't know how the court could justify setting aside a decision until after the election, if they determine a law is unconstitutional. So all H will break loose and likely hand the presidency to the Democrats. Trump is putting it all on the line. He better hope RBG can keep chugging along. It will be interesting to see if conservative justices reverse their vote from the previous decision, to save Trump's presidency.

I can just hear Trump now if the court does strike down the law: "No, I never supported ending Obamcare until a replacement was ready. I feel the SC is attempting to usurp the power of Congress in this decision, legislating from the bench. Republicans have a replacement ready now, but the Democrats are deliberately blocking passage of our bill to sabotage my campaign. ... "

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Old 04-06-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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I'm thinking that Trump doesn't expect the court to strike down the law. He wants to amp up the rhetoric to show he's still trying to keep a campaign promise and repeal Obamacare.
He has to be completely ignorant not to realize that overturning the ACA will undoubtedly turn many voters against him.....as in over 4 million Americans who benefit from the ACA.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:22 AM
 
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The way I interpret that statement after reading the article is that the courts COULD strike down Obamacare sometime before the 2020 election; however, the time between that decision and the election will not be enough time to get a new health care law passed. That article states: "Trump seems unfazed by the potential risks".

I'm thinking that Trump doesn't expect the court to strike down the law. He wants to amp up the rhetoric to show he's still trying to keep a campaign promise and repeal Obamacare. However, he now risks a total calamity it the court DOES strike down Obamacare before the election, causing complete havoc in the individual insurance market. I don't know how the court could justify setting aside a decision until after the election, if they determine a law is unconstitutional. So all H will break loose and likely hand the presidency to the Democrats. Trump is putting it all on the line. He better hope RBG can keep chugging along. It will be interesting to see if conservative justices reverse their vote from the previous decision, to save Trump's presidency.

I can just hear Trump now if the court does strike down the law: "No, I never supported ending Obamcare until a replacement was ready. I feel the SC is attempting to usurp the power of Congress in this decision, legislating from the bench. Republicans have a replacement ready now, but the Democrats are deliberately blocking passage of our bill to sabotage my campaign. ... "
Yes, this! Classic Trump defensive move.
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Old 04-06-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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The way I interpret that statement after reading the article is that the courts COULD strike down Obamacare sometime before the 2020 election; however, the time between that decision and the election will not be enough time to get a new health care law passed. That article states: "Trump seems unfazed by the potential risks".

I'm thinking that Trump doesn't expect the court to strike down the law. He wants to amp up the rhetoric to show he's still trying to keep a campaign promise and repeal Obamacare. However, he now risks a total calamity it the court DOES strike down Obamacare before the election, causing complete havoc in the individual insurance market. I don't know how the court could justify setting aside a decision until after the election, if they determine a law is unconstitutional. So all H will break loose and likely hand the presidency to the Democrats. Trump is putting it all on the line. He better hope RBG can keep chugging along. It will be interesting to see if conservative justices reverse their vote from the previous decision, to save Trump's presidency.

I can just hear Trump now if the court does strike down the law: "No, I never supported ending Obamcare until a replacement was ready. I feel the SC is attempting to usurp the power of Congress in this decision, legislating from the bench. Republicans have a replacement ready now, but the Democrats are deliberately blocking passage of our bill to sabotage my campaign. ... "
The only thing I differ with is the initials SC. It's very likely the the SC will not decide before the election. It's not at that level yet. Of course, it is possible that they get the case and rule on it before the election. I just doubt that they will.
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