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Old 06-22-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/me...HEALTHCARE.pdf
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Old 06-22-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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Thanks for providing the link. It looks like the bill is overly focused on getting rid of abortions and de-funding the federal contributions to the states over time. Probably why so many will lose Medicaid.

Probably will help to bring on single payer by the next administration.
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Old 06-22-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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The medicaid cuts are draconian and delayed very conveniently so as not to interfere with the re-election campaigns of the Senators who will vote for this.
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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League of Women Voters President Chris Carson called the Senate draft “a nasty bill that will hurt millions of Americans.”

“It is not at all surprising that this bill is a terrible one,” Carson added. “Legislation developed in secret and rushed to passage is usually trying to hide something. … The senators who wrote this bill should be ashamed of themselves.”


Senate unveils secretive GOP Obamacare repeal plan, with a vote likely next week - LA Times
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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What's laughable is all the talk about the 'collapse of the ACA'. The ACA provides health insurance to 11 million people, medicaid is the only source of healthcare for 70 million... So apparently we are going to eliminate or severely cut health care to 70 million people to solve that problem? Obama suggested allowing ACA recipients the opportunity to buy into medicare if there were no insurers in their zip code, but I guess that's too much like "socialized medicine" for the Senate Republicans.

I sure hope the millionaires appreciate those $50,000 tax refunds they will get out of this
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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The medicaid cuts are draconian and delayed very conveniently so as not to interfere with the re-election campaigns of the Senators who will vote for this.
Exactly correct. They try to frame the extension of some Medicaid benefits so there will be time to adjust, but re-election was the main reason. The cuts to Medicaid will be worse than the House bill.

Heartbreaking to see the people in wheelchairs carried out of McConnell's office hallway. The Capitol police seemed to be almost apologetic at times - forced to carry out orders. One major accident or illness could put any of us or a family member in a wheelchair.

Hope the 1 % enjoy spending their extra money which they will receive through tax cuts. It would make me sick.
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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I speed read it but can't understand much of it. You'd have to refer to all the references like "section" such and such to even begin to gain any understanding. Seems to have something about punishing states that have too many medicare recipients but I don't know. Health savings accounts. Someone with a lot of knowledge of this sort of complex technical, legal language will have to decipher it.

Yes, it sneaks into effect after the elections so that the people who will be hurt the most won't have been affected by it yet.
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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Not a pretty picture...

Protesters arrested outside Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's office
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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Sad but like always health care is a political football. Yes they are trying to cover themselves past the 2018 elections and then those poor people in Medicaid are going to be hit hard. As for premiums if you really believe the private insurance companies are going to lower them under any bills that doesn't threaten their existence then you are living in fantasy land.

This is a bad bill. Under a real leadership they would be trying to improve Obamacare rather than just dumping it and creating a crappy once that's even worse. But of course that wouldn't carry the political slogan of we got rid of Obamacare that some need to carry to 2018. Many will be fooled vote for them and then be left worse off wondering what the heck happened to them.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:18 PM
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...imes&smtyp=cur

An easy to read breakdown of what the senate bill does.
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