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A. No need for the additional rifle in the caliber, and;
B. I can take all the game I want with what I have and;
C. I can ring 8” steel out to 600yds with ease with what I have.
As the owner of two 30-06s and a 270 bolt gun...I never saw the need to get a 308, but if you have no "deer caliber" bolt guns at all, the 308 makes a ton of sense as a good place to start.
I had to Google this, it's a S&W MP-10 which is chambered in 308 Winchester.
This is essentially another variant of the AR-10.
I already have an HK-91 and a Winchester M-88 (a mint one with a 3-digit serial # if that means anything to you) in 308 so the MP-10 is not one I am burning with desire to buy. That said if one was presented to me at a bargain price I'm not sure why I wouldn't want it.
Actually if you said you would buy me a rifle but it has to be in .308, I might lean towards a heavy barrel version of the Ruger M77, given that they have improved barrel quality and trigger action a lot in the last few years.
All that said, S&W has been building some good guns for quite some time.
I had to Google this, it's a S&W MP-10 which is chambered in 308 Winchester.
This is essentially another variant of the AR-10.
I already have an HK-91 and a Winchester M-88 (a mint one with a 3-digit serial # if that means anything to you) in 308 so the MP-10 is not one I am burning with desire to buy. That said if one was presented to me at a bargain price I'm not sure why I wouldn't want it.
Actually if you said you would buy me a rifle but it has to be in .308, I might lean towards a heavy barrel version of the Ruger M77, given that they have improved barrel quality and trigger action a lot in the last few years.
All that said, S&W has been building some good guns for quite some time.
Thanks. I don't have a semiauto in .308 so when the MP10 comes up on sale at the LGS I was interested.
The first time I saw the use of semiauto for hunting was when Susie up in Alaska used it to take down a bear (forgot the name of that show). Not sure the need for a semiauto but I guess in case you miss & the bear charges at you. But I need a justification to step up my AR collection to include a .308 . I have a Browing A-Bolt in .308.
I've been reading that the S&W M&P AR platform has reasonably good reviews so I'd figure I ask for comments.
A friend has one. It's a nice weapon. I've messed around with it with him. He can ring a gong out to 300 yards (as far as we could set up.) But, he also has a nice optic on it, and he knows what he's doing (retired soldier.)
Would I want one? Eh. But I find the relative utility of the AR platforms limited for hunting; my .02 is that they have a lot of sharp edges that hang up on stuff and can be cumbersome. I'd sooner have a BAR or some such.
A friend has one. It's a nice weapon. I've messed around with it with him. He can ring a gong out to 300 yards (as far as we could set up.) But, he also has a nice optic on it, and he knows what he's doing (retired soldier.)
Do you recall what glass he has? I will be in the market for one.
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Would I want one? Eh. But I find the relative utility of the AR platforms limited for hunting; my .02 is that they have a lot of sharp edges that hang up on stuff and can be cumbersome. I'd sooner have a BAR or some such.
I do admit the limited utility for hunting if I am being honest with myself. But it's post COVID and I'm just itching to spend money.
I used to have one, sold it last year after I bought a .308 bolt gun. Outfitted with a good scope, the M&P was pretty heavy, I wouldn't want to lug one around in the woods. I enjoyed using it at the range, where I could get 1 MOA groups out of it at 200 yds (especially after I put a better trigger in) but after a few rounds, the pencil barrel would heat up and the groups would open up quite a bit.
I'm missing the point as to how an MP-10 is significantly different from other AR-10 rifles out there. Middle of the road for price and I would say a good value in terms of quality versus price. I guess if you are offered a good deal on one and want an AR-10, buy it.
Then again, if you ask me if you should buy a gun, I kind of default to "yes" as an answer.
I used to have one, sold it last year after I bought a .308 bolt gun. Outfitted with a good scope, the M&P was pretty heavy, I wouldn't want to lug one around in the woods. I enjoyed using it at the range, where I could get 1 MOA groups out of it at 200 yds (especially after I put a better trigger in) but after a few rounds, the pencil barrel would heat up and the groups would open up quite a bit.
Could you put some numbers to "a few rounds" and "groups opened up quite a bit"?
1 MOA at 200 yards is good. Was that with match ammo, ball ammo, or your own handloads?
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