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(the remainder is relatively redundant, but interesting info nevertheless)
Saiga's with large cap are not NFA, its 922(r) compliance.
Under 922(r) foreign manufactured firearm that does not have a "sporting purpose" (or is readily convertible to a sporting purpose) is banned from importation. Sporting purpose is obviously vague, however it includes a bunch of stuff similar to the old Clinton AWB, like no bayonet lugs, reduced magazine capacities etc. However you can replace imported parts with US manufactured parts so that you are 922(r) compliant if you have under 10 imported parts, and can then circumvent the sporting purpose restrictions.
Now the problem lies in that the Saiga-12 is imported under sporting config. So you can't just slap a drum mag on it and be good to go, because you're in violation of the sporting purpose, so you need to bring that part imported part count down, and remember to stick to either US manufacture or imported mags, because even if you own one imported high cap magazine, on a conversion with 8 residual imported parts, you can be busted.
It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes except that this subsection shall not apply to -
(1) the assembly of any such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or
(2) the assembly of any such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.
Last edited by Gungnir; 04-02-2012 at 11:27 AM..
Reason: Answering question asked, not the question I thought was asked.
wasn't that drum mag on the Sweeper the issue that got it made into a NFA category firearm?
A Street Sweeper was reclassified as a "destructive device". The Saiga with a drum just needs the correct amount of 922(r) compliance parts to be legal. Otherwise it would fall under the 1989 AWB restrictions.
Can anyone explain if the cobray streetsweeper with 18" barrel is legal to sell.
The laws are confusing since it meets both requirements in barrel and overall length. Do you think it was classified under dd if the barrel length was shorter which would make the overall length to short as well?
I would sure like to know which politicians voted to have the streetsweeper classified as a dd? It would be nice if someone put together a list of politicians who have voted against the second amendment.
After all the purpose of the second amendment is to over throw the government if it becomes to involved that it infringes on our freedom? If this were to happen, then the citizens of this country would have obsolete guns that would stand no chance to serve the purpose which was intended.
We are taught from children that to die for freedom is a noble gesture, and our military and government actually rewards soldiers that have done this. On the other hand our government has no issue on restricting/manipulating the second amendment until we are left with nothing to defend ourselves.
We never know how many tragedies are orchestrated by our government in one way or another. Think about 911, the Oklahoma City bombing, and other things that have happened for a no good reason. Anytime the government can create a crisis they can then take away more freedoms to combat that crisis. Look at health care and the fact that now we can be forced to buy something whether we want it or not. If enough tragedies happen in the form of shooting kids in schools, the public will demand we give up our guns.
The Striker and Streetsweeper (and one other shotgun, IIRC) were banned under Clinton with stroke of pen by Tres. Se'y LLoyd Bentsen (ATF was under Treas. back then).
As Gobark says, they were reclassified as 'destructive devices,' which the executive branch has the power to do under the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934. It makes no sense considering that subsequent models like the Saiga or Keltec KSG offer similar functionality, just a different name and slightly different design.
David Kopel sketched out a 'what if' scenario of what Pres. Obama could do under this provision. America's 1st Freedom
My bad. I could swear that it was. Maybe I'm getting it confused with something else, like the Pancor Jackhammer or something.
The Pancor is also a revolver shotgun... One of the first. And it was American made so it was never banned. The US just recanted on funding the project and guy went bankrupt. There is only one left, the original.
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