April is Confederate History Month (Decatur, Boston: living, plantations, bill)

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

I'd like to see it, but it won't happen. Hello, race card, all you hear about is how the Civil War was about slavery. yeah, 600,000+ White boys died over freeing blacks or keeping them enslaved way back in the 1860's!?!?!

Ummm...yeah. Just like all you hear about for WWII was the facism and millions of people being oppressed and killed as they tried to take over the world.

What would you have us discuss about the Civil War, the fashions?

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

WBTS

Please, the only people who call it "the war between the states" are a few southerners who feel better using a euphemism. The rest of the country and the world knows it as the US Civil War. I know you know this, but just a reminder from Merriam Webster:

"Civil War: a war between opposing groups of citizens of the same country"

[gaflsc]

Originally Posted by neil0311

Please, the only people who call it "the war between the states" are a few southerners who feel better using a euphemism......

"Stimulus" is a euphemism used by everyone now instead of "The largest spending spree by Congress & the President ever", but whatever....

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by gaflsc

"Stimulus" is a euphemism used by everyone now instead of "The largest spending spree by Congress & the President ever", but whatever....

Now we're in 100% agreement.

[neil0311]

Just one other thing to add and then I guess I've overstayed my welcome on this topic. The rest of the country outside the deep south has let this part of our history become history. It's remembered and taught, but people do not live their current and day to day lives thinking about it.

It just seems like a small group in the south still hasn't gotten over the whole loss of slavery, defeat of the Confederacy, pains of reconstruction, and probably more importantly the recent history of the civil rights movement. I think they blame "Yankees" and other "outsiders" for "ruining" the "great thing" they had here. It's a shame because that's in contrast to those here in the new south who are about business and success and moving forward.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by neil0311

Please, the only people who call it "the war between the states" are a few southerners who feel better using a euphemism. The rest of the country and the world knows it as the US Civil War. I know you know this, but just a reminder from Merriam Webster:

"Civil War: a war between opposing groups of citizens of the same country"

Fine, except that at that point the Confederacy had declared their independence, so they did not consider themselves "citizens of the same country."

[TakeAhike]

Originally Posted by neil0311

It just seems like a small group in the south still hasn't gotten over the whole loss of slavery, defeat of the Confederacy, pains of reconstruction, and probably more importantly the recent history of the civil rights movement. I think they blame "Yankees" and other "outsiders" for "ruining" the "great thing" they had here. It's a shame because that's in contrast to those here in the new south who are about business and success and moving forward.

The % of people who feel this way is truly very small.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by neil0311

Just one other thing to add and then I guess I've overstayed my welcome on this topic. The rest of the country outside the deep south has let this part of our history become history. It's remembered and taught, but people do not live their current and day to day lives thinking about it.

It just seems like a small group in the south still hasn't gotten over the whole loss of slavery, defeat of the Confederacy, pains of reconstruction, and probably more importantly the recent history of the civil rights movement. I think they blame "Yankees" and other "outsiders" for "ruining" the "great thing" they had here. It's a shame because that's in contrast to those here in the new south who are about business and success and moving forward.

I am as Southern as the day is long, and have never in my 53 years encountered another Southerner that feels that way.

However, my great-great grandfather, CSA Colonel (Retired) Roger Quarles Word of Murphreesboro, TN would (according to my grandmother) regale the family with tales of Yankee cruelty and abomination at the Sunday dinner table on a weekly basis, pounding his fist in anger. He apparently went to his grave with an abiding loathing for anyone residing north of the TN line.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by neil0311

Just one other thing to add and then I guess I've overstayed my welcome on this topic. The rest of the country outside the deep south has let this part of our history become history. It's remembered and taught, but people do not live their current and day to day lives thinking about it.

Most of the Civil War wasn't fought on their land, and there aren't earthworks and battlefields lying about which remind them of it all the time.

I'm a native Minnesotan. Minnesota sent troops to various battles, and some of those units were quite involved and well-decorated, but there really isn't much in the state to remind us of what happened except a captured battle flag or two in museums.

When I moved to Georgia, I was immediately aware of a number of historic sites (e.g., Kennesaw Mountain) related to the Civil War. This made sense to me, since troops under Sherman's command did quite a number on the area and probably also marched through the general area where my house now stands.

I have no issue with remembering the past. History is important, and even the "other side" of a conflict has its heroes and noble goals. While I agree that the Union probably made the right move, I don't see the war as a completely black and white issue (no pun intended), and I also see it as very important to our country in many ways. And I'm a "yankee".

[TakeAhike]

throwing my hands up in the air

Yes--as long as lives are lost in wars and homes destroyed--ie Hurricane Katrina or 911 or any 'catastrophe' --man made or Act of God--it is 'human' to want to honor 'Life' in some way.

There is simply no way to change the past--'Caucasians' living in Europe were wrong --a lot of people are 'Wrong' or maybe they are 'Right' but human rights are being violated in ways that are abhorrent.

sigh--Is it any different anywhere else--India, China, Israel and so on and so forth?