[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by FL_Expert

I don’t mean the city is physically large. It’s huge in terms of population, density, income, etc. and it’s enough to significantly skew NYS statistics.

Not sure what you mean with "income." If you mean the wealthiest per capita - then no, New York City is not as big as many other parts of the state, and doesn't skew anything in that regard.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewd...h=75dc809146a3

That's a general run-down from Forbes, based on actual census data. You could check the source and look at the census data itself but I just picked Forbes because it was a source I'm familiar with, and was near the top of the search results.

If you mean the combined revenue of everyone who lives in NYC - then sure - even homeless people who beg for a buck contribute to the combined revenue, and there are plenty of them.

[FL_Expert]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

Not sure what you mean with "income." If you mean the wealthiest per capita - then no, New York City is not as big as many other parts of the state, and doesn't skew anything in that regard.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewd...h=75dc809146a3

That's a general run-down from Forbes, based on actual census data. You could check the source and look at the census data itself but I just picked Forbes because it was a source I'm familiar with, and was near the top of the search results.

If you mean the combined revenue of everyone who lives in NYC - then sure - even homeless people who beg for a buck contribute to the combined revenue, and there are plenty of them.

NYS’s GDP per capita is 108k, which obviously is the case purely due to NYC.

[leadfoot4]

Originally Posted by FL_Expert

NY State statistics aren’t very meaningful when one huge city skews everything.

Very true!

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by Chas863

It doesn't surprise me one bit that people are moving FROM NY state and moving TO Florida. I mean, who WOULDN'T do so if they had the financial means and freedom to do so?

Some don't move from NY to FL due to wanting to be near friends & family, or being tied down by their jobs & businesses. They can afford to move, but its financially perfereable to stay in NY.

Some can afford to move to FL, but are too old.

Others can't stand the heat/humidity in FL, or the politics.

Florida's not for everybody, even though it seems that way during the Wintertime, for us locals...ugh!

I wasn't born & raised in Florida, so I can't cast any stones at the snow birds, tourist, or newcomers...but I reserve the right to whine.

Escaping high population density will most likely be the reason for my next move, but to another less densely populated place within Florida. The last place to fill up here in Florida will be the state's interior, North of Orlando to the state line.

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by Chas863

It doesn't surprise me one bit that people are moving FROM NY state and moving TO Florida. I mean, who WOULDN'T do so if they had the financial means and freedom to do so?

A LOT of people wouldn't. And a lot move back within 5 years of moving to FL. Most of my family did. Very few of my friends remained in FL. A lot of people don't like Florida, for multiple reasons.

[Chas863]

Originally Posted by Arcenal813

A LOT of people wouldn't. And a lot move back within 5 years of moving to FL. Most of my family did. Very few of my friends remained in FL. A lot of people don't like Florida, for multiple reasons.

In the Florida 55+ community that I moved to 20 years ago, very few of the original owners, of which I am one, moved out voluntarily. A few moved out when their spouse died, but some widows/widowers didn't move out even then. Most stayed and kept their house alone, and some found another spouse to share the house with them.

I'm sure that some Florida communities have a greater turnover, but in our community, there are still plenty of the original owners from 20+ years ago. Our community has very little turnover which is an indication that the owners are happy/content where they are. The second owners seem to be content also with very little turnover. I like it like that. Of the houses in my immediate vicinity, about half still have the original owner living there. Of the remainer, all are second owners except for one which has had 3 owners in 20 years.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by Chas863

In the Florida 55+ community that I moved to 20 years ago, very few of the original owners, of which I am one, moved out voluntarily. A few moved out when their spouse died, but some widows/widowers didn't move out even then. Most stayed and kept their house alone, and some found another spouse to share the house with them.

I'm sure that some Florida communities have a greater turnover, but in our community, there are still plenty of the original owners from 20+ years ago. Our community has very little turnover which is an indication that the owners are happy/content where they are. The second owners seem to be content also with very little turnover. I like it like that. Of the houses in my immediate vicinity, about half still have the original owner living there. Of the remainer, all are second owners except for one which has had 3 owners in 20 years.

My sub division has a lot of turnover. Many moving out of state. Some back to IN, IL, but a lot of them to places like GA, SC, one moved to NC. A bit cooler, cheaper and less crowded they said. They don't like the hotter weather and the growth. States like GA, NC more temperate but not bone chilling cold

[hotkarl]

With all them Yankees moving into Florida you could definitely say the population is getting “denser” lol

[Chas863]

Originally Posted by MOforthewin

My sub division has a lot of turnover. Many moving out of state. Some back to IN, IL, but a lot of them to places like GA, SC, one moved to NC. A bit cooler, cheaper and less crowded they said. They don't like the hotter weather and the growth. States like GA, NC more temperate but not bone chilling cold

Your first sentence illustrates the point I was trying to make. Not all 55+ communities in Florida are alike. Some have fast turnover and many rental properties. Some have very little turnover and very few rental properties. It pays to check out the specific 55+ community in detail before making assumptions about length of residency, turnover rate, average age, etc.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by Chas863

Your first sentence illustrates the point I was trying to make. Not all 55+ communities in Florida are alike. Some have fast turnover and many rental properties. Some have very little turnover and very few rental properties. It pays to check out the specific 55+ community in detail before making assumptions about length of residency, turnover rate, average age, etc.

I'm not in a 55 over place. Regular sub division but most of the folks are mid 50s and older being I live in swfl.