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Old 10-24-2014, 05:26 PM
 
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I have no idea who's the more honest or more crooked of Crist and Scott.

What is undeniable is that Crist as governor during tough economic times, not of his making, had the one opportunity to do something great for this state but chose not to. Crist vetoed Florida Polytechnic University. Scott supported it.

Ask any California politician of any party if Sanford University was important to the growth of Silicon Valley.

The one investment Crist could have made to the future of Florida but he wouldn't support it. Why invest a dollar when you could spend it?

Now Crist wants to raise the minimum wage. Ok with me but a state of minimum wage workers is a third world state. Florida students need a path to the future and Florida residents need a path to sustained economic development. $10 an hour fast food workers won't make the path for either.

A decade from now, Floridians will be glad Scott was governor. Crist will just be a name in the roll call of ex governors.
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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I have no idea who's the more honest or more crooked of Crist and Scott.
You don't know who's the more crooked of the two? Seriously? Hint: One of them ran a company that ripped off the taxpayers for billions and the other one's named Charlie Crist.

Good Lord...
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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Things got bad under Crist. Despite things getting worse across the country over the past six years with Obamma at the helm, things seem to have recovered a bit in Florida.

Last thing we need is another obamma loving socialist, having a second swing at tearing the state back down.

They're both crooks, but Scott is the lesser of the two evils this time around. What choice do we have?

CN.......
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Crist, as FL A.G. when asked about 'red light cameras' stated 'they are unconstitutional'. As Governor and receiving 'donations' to his election committee, he had no problem signing the red light camera law saying 'it's for your safety'.
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:38 PM
 
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Crist, as FL A.G. when asked about 'red light cameras' stated 'they are unconstitutional'. As Governor and receiving 'donations' to his election committee, he had no problem signing the red light camera law saying 'it's for your safety'.
Shouldn't surprise anyone. Crist is the master flip flopper
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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Florida Polytechnic University exists solely because of political reasons- it was not created in a way with the normal creation of a state university and was totally unaccredited when it opened with no guarantee it would get blessed by SACS because of its genesis. Any sensible and sane person would have vetoed it and said that if you wanted to exist, there needed to be a better way of splitting it off from USF.

And the loons who were running it at first- anyone remember $10K of state money spent on Star Wars sculpture? (I'm actually pro-public art, but if the statues were legit, they wouldn't have been called 'office furniture' in official documents and accounting records.) The original director of the project hiring his two sons at above market rates?

Fallout from USF Poly investigation: resignations, a call for former leader's firing | Tampa Bay Times

The reason Scott voted for it was because he's so corrupt himself that hiring your own kids for sham jobs is a perfectly normal way of doing business in his view.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Sunny South Florida
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Let's face it: we get the politicians we deserve. Too many people only ask politicians "What kinds of free stuff will you give me in exchange for voting for you?", so of course you end up with folks really good at promising but lousy in their follow-through, pandering to people who don't grasp what the true role of government ought to be. People look the other way when someone of "their party" isn't living up to the ideals the party espouses, voting for them simply because "he may be a louse, but he's our louse." How many times have we heard, Sure, ___ isn't my favorite person, but I'll never vote for that other guy!" in this thread? Others are of that "do the same thing over and over and expect a different result," voting for someone despite a lackluster record...or a record of saying and doing whatever it took to fool the right people at the right time. If we were to turn our backs on these sorts of politicians prior even to the primaries, it might allow some more worthy nominees their chance. Career politicians are addicted to the power and the money (and the ego trip), but since we won't be bothered to find and support alternatives to them, we keep going back to the same hacks and jerks and tell ourselves "that's all we have to choose from".
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:39 PM
 
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I wonder if people who voted for Scott had any
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Old 10-25-2014, 12:53 AM
 
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I have no idea who's the more honest or more crooked of Crist and Scott.

What is undeniable is that Crist as governor during tough economic times, not of his making, had the one opportunity to do something great for this state but chose not to. Crist vetoed Florida Polytechnic University. Scott supported it.

Ask any California politician of any party if Sanford University was important to the growth of Silicon Valley.

The one investment Crist could have made to the future of Florida but he wouldn't support it. Why invest a dollar when you could spend it?

Now Crist wants to raise the minimum wage. Ok with me but a state of minimum wage workers is a third world state. Florida students need a path to the future and Florida residents need a path to sustained economic development. $10 an hour fast food workers won't make the path for either.

A decade from now, Floridians will be glad Scott was governor. Crist will just be a name in the roll call of ex governors.
We'll mark you down as a Scott supporter.
IMO some one who pleads the 5th 75 times is some one who has something to hide and not to be trusted..
Also some one who tries to dodge a debate over a fan strikes me as some one who brings limited content to the game.
Also implying that those who dont agree with your choice of candidate lack common sense is a rather tactless way of putting it as the reverse implication could also apply.
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Old 10-25-2014, 04:50 AM
 
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“Common sense is the most widely shared commodity in the world, for every man is convinced that he is well supplied with it.” Rene Descartes
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