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View Poll Results: What is the future of the Apple Credit Card?
Apple relents on many of its requirements and moves the Apple Card to a popular big bank like Chase or Amex. 1 11.11%
Apple bends a little bit on its requirements and moves to a semi-popular big bank like Bank Of America or Wells Fargo. 0 0%
Apple is inflexible but it is able to agree to a contract with an unpopular bank such as Synchrony. 1 11.11%
Apple cannot come to terms with any other bank and Goldman Sachs sets a firm date to just close down the program. 5 55.56%
Goldman Sachs has a sudden change of heart and pivots to reinvest in MARCUS and the Apple Card. 0 0%
Apple chooses to buy a bank to administer the Apple Card program. 1 11.11%
Other (please specify and describe in the thread) 1 11.11%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-05-2024, 03:52 PM
 
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It has been known for the last six months or so that Goldman Sachs is moving away from its venture into consumer banking known as 'MARCUS'. Goldman and its credit card partners: Apple and GM are looking for financial institutions to take over the 'Apple Card' and 'My GM Mastercard' programs. Goldman Sachs had to make many concessions to Apple to win the contract for the Apple Card. Time has proven that those concessions resulted in profitability issues for the Apple Card program. The My GM program is more inline with industry standards. I believe Goldman will find someone else to take over the My GM Mastercard without too much trouble but I believe the Apple Card will be much more difficult and its future is much more uncertain. The other big banks are well aware of the problems with the Apple contract as well. They will not partner with Apple unless the concessions Goldman had agreed to are withdrawn. What are your thoughts on the future of the Apple Card?

For reference:

https://www.cnbc.com/select/apple-se...goldman-sachs/

https://www.hostmerchantservices.com...leaving-apple/

https://theticker.org/12976/business...goldman-sachs/

https://www.reuters.com/business/fin...ts-2024-04-30/

Full disclosure: I do not have the Apple Card and I am generally a Windows / Linux / Android fan.

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Old 05-07-2024, 06:53 AM
 
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What is the Future of the Apple Credit Card?
I don't care. Apple won't ever get another penny in business from me.
If my long held shares weren't so full of CG I'd be selling.
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Old 05-08-2024, 06:08 PM
 
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That’s too bad. I have an Apple Card as a second card and the interface for your account is super slick as you would expect from Apple.
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Old 05-11-2024, 11:44 AM
 
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So far everyone is voting that the Apple Card will just get shut down. I was actually not expecting that to be the case. Interesting!
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Old 05-11-2024, 12:20 PM
 
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It’s the anti Apple crowd voting block.
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Old 05-11-2024, 12:39 PM
 
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It’s the anti Apple crowd voting block.
I see the vote distribution changed a little but where is the pro Apple voting block?
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Old 05-11-2024, 04:50 PM
 
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I see the vote distribution changed a little but where is the pro Apple voting block?
Not on this forum. We’re mostly old farts here.
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Old 05-12-2024, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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My wife loves her Apple Card.
But, we also have 4 Visa, 1 MC, and 1 AMEX. So, whatever.
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Old 05-14-2024, 08:57 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I got it when it first came out.

I never use the physical card - it only has 1% cash back. The 3% cash back on some things and 2% when just using Apple Pay. It makes a decent catch-all card for when I don't have a better cash back option.
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Old Today, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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I voted "other" because while I am a longtime AAPL shareholder, I am not a big user of their products and I've never heard of the Apple Card until now.

I am a "charter member" of the AT&T Universal card (1990) and a Discover Card holder since 1986. I guess these new products have passed me by (not to mention, none of my cards are gold).

According to Wikipedia, Apple approached a number of big banks before the rollout but was turned down. With GS getting out of the retail business that sounds like the future of the relationship is in doubt. I can see Apple buying a bank the way Sears did in the 80's with Greenwood Trust Corp when they launched Discover. Or start their own bank. But I'm still voting "other".
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