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Old 05-23-2018, 09:30 PM
 
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I think what will most likely happen is a brain drain the very moment that another nation steps up to the plate. Once another nation creates a safe space for engineers, doctors, etc and opens up their boarders and has research opprotunities, jobs, etc the USA will be like Venseula over night. ...

As of yet no nation has stepped up to the plate and sent out a signal to the highly skilled....
For a nation to truly supplant what the US was, say circa 1800-1970, is highly unlikely. If anything, the worldwide trend is retrenchment, nationalistic fervor, closure of borders, distaste for immigration, and quick-fix populist nostrums. Prosperous and welcoming nations are few; most tend to be small, capable of absorbing only a small number of engineers etc., even if there were a mass desire among American engineers to immigrate (and this is unlikely). For a bevy of reasons, the US is the only serious large player, and will thus remain for the foreseeable future. Sometimes this is hard to see, while living in America, because we see the local squalor and corruption and so forth, not realizing that abroad it is likely even worse.

What I would love to see, is a truly global job market, where persons with advanced degrees and stellar resumes could obtain work-permits and residency-permits without regard to national origin. This is NOT a solution for the unskilled or semi-skilled. But by promoting the free flow of highly skilled labor, it would presumably improve wages for highly-skilled people, as now companies would have to compete for their labor, without regard to national boundaries.
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Old 05-23-2018, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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This is NOT a solution for the unskilled or semi-skilled.
How is it a solution to any of the problems described in this thread?
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:15 AM
 
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For a nation to truly supplant what the US was, say circa 1800-1970, is highly unlikely. If anything, the worldwide trend is retrenchment, nationalistic fervor, closure of borders, distaste for immigration, and quick-fix populist nostrums. Prosperous and welcoming nations are few; most tend to be small, capable of absorbing only a small number of engineers etc., even if there were a mass desire among American engineers to immigrate (and this is unlikely). For a bevy of reasons, the US is the only serious large player, and will thus remain for the foreseeable future. Sometimes this is hard to see, while living in America, because we see the local squalor and corruption and so forth, not realizing that abroad it is likely even worse.

What I would love to see, is a truly global job market, where persons with advanced degrees and stellar resumes could obtain work-permits and residency-permits without regard to national origin. This is NOT a solution for the unskilled or semi-skilled. But by promoting the free flow of highly skilled labor, it would presumably improve wages for highly-skilled people, as now companies would have to compete for their labor, without regard to national boundaries.
And as great as the U.S was on its own technologically, it had rather unique events of being given the scientific knowledge of the British empire via the Tizard mission AND the Nazi advancements via operation paperclip. I’m guessing there was also a similar knowledge transfer from the Japanese. This pooling of knowledge was of utmost importance to mankind and the u.s economically.

I agree That it would be great for mankind for technological advancement to not be hindered by national borders at the high end of employment. I’m sure mankind will also benefit substantially by woman being allowed a more prominent role. For long stretches of human history we were mainly pulling from men only and artificially hindering women.

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