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I just cleaned up pee again from my dog who keeps taking off his belly wrap. This is a constant thing. I wake in the morning and find pee on the floor or step in it when I come home. I have resorted to putting him in a gated area, but it does not help since he somehow gets his belly wrap off and there is pee on the pads and towel. The Vet determined awhile back he needed to switch to a kidney diet, and it would lessen the amount he goes but I don't think it has. When I do find him going inside, he still has to pee when I take him out soon afterwards. He does not pee much when we walk. He did have his urine recently checked and there wasn't anything wrong. I thought he could be diabetic but is not. This coming month he's due for bloodwork so maybe something will show but I have a feeling it will not. Also, the Vet suggested to put a onesie on him. But when he has to go out to pee, I barely can get his belly wrap off since he's running out to go.
How old is your dog? My older male has to pee more often than he used to. My youngest dog just made an 8 hr trip back from bird hunting and she peed zero times. Stopped twice and NADA.
He had his urine checked last month and he's not diabetic. HUH
BLOODWORK!!! Not Urine finds Diabetes & the same Bloodwork can check for a LOT of things that can/will go wrong!
My old vet 72 years young knows this... Are You even taking this dog to a Vet??
Yes, I am taking the dog to a Vet. They can check for sugar in the urine just like they do with humans. And I know they do bloodwork for diabetes.
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The OP has clearly stated more than once that the he/she is taking the dog to a vet.
Thanks
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What does this even mean? A urine sample can detect both types of canine diabetes (insipidus and mellitus). Insipidus is a lot less common than mellitus. Of course appropriate bloodwork should also be done.
Thanks I can't believe the bloodwork is going to be $175! Not just for his urine but everything will be checked.
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How old is your dog? My older male has to pee more often than he used to. My youngest dog just made an 8 hr trip back from bird hunting and she peed zero times. Stopped twice and NADA.
I’m not trying to sound obtuse but in most if not all dog breeds that’s a senior dog, and all of our senior dogs at some point had incontinence issues. Unless it’s something that occurred rapidly I’m not sure having a vet check ‘why’ is going to net anything.
We had to have a room cordoned off where we could clean the issue with little fuss and then make sure we let them out frequently during waking hours.
The internet says "the standard blood glucose test for diabetes in dogs and humans does not test for vasopressin levels".
It also states that most vet clinics don't have the equipment to test for vasopressin levels, they have to send the blood to a lab and it takes a few days to get a result.
He had his urine checked last month and he's not diabetic. HUH
BLOODWORK!!! Not Urine finds Diabetes & the same Bloodwork can check for a LOT of things that can/will go wrong!
My old vet 72 years young knows this... Are You even taking this dog to a Vet??
Glucose is found in the urine with a simple dipstick test.
If it’s there, it just means the disease is now advanced.
Blood tests are definitely the mainstay for diagnosis, and then ongoing management.
Urinating a lot can also mean kidney problems, so blood tests will pick that up too.
Urine specific gravity should also be tested as well, from a urine sample.
You could be describing the symptoms of diabetes insipidus, which is caused by a vasopressin hormone deficiency and not related to the type of diabetes that is related to blood sugar levels. I don't know that there is a test for it specifically but is usually diagnosed by excessive thirst, urination, and lack of other causes.
Most vets aren't too familiar with it, ours wasn't, and told us the only "treatment" was she had to be an outside dog. Fortunately a second opinion resulted in a vasopressin Rx that instantly solved the problem. If the onset is at a young age, sometimes the problem self-resolves as the dog goes through adolescence, but only if it's treated with vasopressin as a bridge through adolescence. If it's not treated the dog likely will physiologically be unable to retain urine regardless if adolescence fixes the hormone imbalance if the muscles and ligaments required to hold urine don't develop correctly.
Diabetes insipidus is a very rare disease in dogs.
I’ve only ever seen it once in over 20 years.
My memory is that the urine was very dilute and the urine specific gravity was hyposthenuric.
I’m a Vet btw, but no longer work in private practice.
Glucose is found in the urine with a simple dipstick test.
If it’s there, it just means the disease is now advanced.
Blood tests are definitely the mainstay for diagnosis, and then ongoing management.
Urinating a lot can also mean kidney problems, so blood tests will pick that up too.
Urine specific gravity should also be tested as well, from a urine sample.
Yes, that is why they Don't use it any more in Humans or Animals.
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What does this even mean? A urine sample can detect both types of canine diabetes (insipidus and mellitus). Insipidus is a lot less common than mellitus. Of course appropriate bloodwork should also be done.
Ever taken a close look at what your health insurance pays out for YOUR routine bloodwork? $175 isn't bad at all.
