Does anyone enjoy living in Detroit? (Warren, Sterling Heights: best neighborhoods, 2013, credit)

[detroit's own]

Originally Posted by KBabbleL

I'm about to start looking for a new place. Currently in the north 'burbs, but am looking at Ferndale & Redford. Why not Detroit? I lived downtown in the 80's, loved it. But now-- I would add city income tax, higher car insurance rates, higher crime rates and lower/slower police response. Trash pick-up. Street lights out. All those things make me (a Detroit booster since the 80's) shake my head slowly and say probably not.

Ferndale maybe, but Redford? ha! trashy at its best

[KBabbleL]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

You are looking in the wrong neighborhood.

LOL... and where exactly in Detroit would I avoid the income tax, the higher car insurance and the slower police service? Sure some spots have their streetlights, but those other financial concerns are present anywhere in the city limits.

[MS313]

Originally Posted by KBabbleL

LOL... and where exactly in Detroit would I avoid the income tax, the higher car insurance and the slower police service? Sure some spots have their streetlights, but those other financial concerns are present anywhere in the city limits.

Well for one downtown and midtown has a hell of alot more police presence than anywhere else in the city. Especially with the WSU Police force. And then there are some neighborhoods (can't exactly remember) that have private security.

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

As you may have guessed, I am not from Detroit nor have I visited there. It seems to me, though, that there is a trend to remake Detroit desirable for white hipsters instead of the long-time residents.

[jonnynonos]

Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo

As you may have guessed, I am not from Detroit nor have I visited there. It seems to me, though, that there is a trend to remake Detroit desirable for white hipsters instead of the long-time residents.

Isn't much they can do for the neighborhoods.

That's what happens when you are flat broke.

Ideally the rebirth of downtown leads to (much) high tax revenues and, thus, services, improvement projects, etc.

But that would seem to be a very long way off.

[animatedmartian]

Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo

As you may have guessed, I am not from Detroit nor have I visited there. It seems to me, though, that there is a trend to remake Detroit desirable for white hipsters instead of the long-time residents.

I wouldn't say that. The trend is to make Detroit desirable for anyone with money. Too many of Detroit's long-time residents don't have a whole lot of income; the median household income is just under $26,000. Even for a city of 700,000, that's a lot of poor folks and it's pretty hard to support a city on nothing but poverty.

But, I'm pretty optimistic that once there's sustainable growth and revenue downtown, they'll use that to alleviate the problems of the neighborhoods. Some neighborhoods don't have to wait on downtown and already are finding ways to be sustainable on their own.

[kimba01]

Originally Posted by detroit's own

My thing is, if you feel so negative about a place, why not just do something about it? ex there are a group of guys cutting fields of grass in Detroit because the city can't afford it. But you know what the average MI person does? sits across 8 mile and points their finger and laugh at them and the situation instead of picking up a lawn mower. ijs, don't complain about ish you can change.

I would think that in a city with 700,00 residents there are quite a few on either side of 8 mile pointing fingers. Perfect example of my side, your side mentality.

[badguykc]

Didn't Eminem kind of break down that whole "8 Mile barrier" thing?

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by badguykc

Didn't Eminem kind of break down that whole "8 Mile barrier" thing?

Not at all. 8 Mile continues to be a major dividing line for the races.

[313Weather]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

Not at all. 8 Mile continues to be a major dividing line for the races.

That's changing.

The westside suburbs across 8 Mile are now majority black, and even Eastpointe is now only 68% white.

It'll be more accurate to say that it's a class border now.