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Not shocking. Why do people think all military personnel are saints?
But of course these were not just military personnel but cadets destined to be part of the regular officer corps. With Cold War II kicking off maybe they didn't want to be front line Lieutenants if a world war breaks out
What an embarrassment to them, their families and unfortunately West Point too. How stupid can you be to get accepted there, then blow it by doing drugs. It's a privilege to attend West Point. They don't deserve that honor.
The spring breakers are swarming Va Beach. I hate the "cruising" traffic and the late night sirens but at least the armpit of the strip is far enough away that I don't have to deal with the drunken last call crowd.
My thoughts exactly. Will they be expelled? I think they should be. Future leaders of America od'ing on fentanyl laced cocaine? uh, I don't think so.
The drug laws themselves are to blame for this...the coke was 'laced' with Fentanyl!!
If this was legal, these drugs would be manufactured under strict regulations and quality controls...keeping them illegal just ensures more deaths and overdoses in the future.
Its really pointless to debate though, because overall the Govt has no authority to impose or enforce 'drug laws' in the first place, history proves without a doubt, this is not a safety or health concern anyway, keeping drug laws in place does nothing but ensuring criminals continue to profit (tax free as well)...
Ive long thought this is the real reason these laws remain in place...(to protect the criminals).
That’s not the reason. It’s a combination of leftover Puritanism/misplaced morality judgement/Daddy (government) has to protect you from yourself/and (mostly) there’s way too much money being made in the war on drugs. There are police departments that a lot of their budget comes from property seizures from these cases. A sheriff in Georgia infamously built a beach house from property seizure money. Lots and lots of jobs from this “war” as well as investors in private prisons, many of whom are lawmakers. Also add political cowardice to the mix because their constituents have a knee jerk reaction to any hint of legalizing drugs. Related to that leftover puritanical/moral judgement.
The same people think alcohol is A-ok even though lots of people die from long term alcohol use.
My thoughts exactly. Will they be expelled? I think they should be. Future leaders of America od'ing on fentanyl laced cocaine? uh, I don't think so.
They will almost certainly be expelled. Recruits are different today. There was a couple of dozen cadets sitting separately when we went to Paris Island for my nephews marine graduation. I asked who they were abs was told they are cadets who weren’t being allowed to graduate for a variety of reasons.
One recruit violated a rule that weekend by leaving the base on parents weekend (leading up to graduation) for dinner with his family, despite them telling us repeatedly it was against the rules. He even wore his fatigues to dinner, another violation. A veteran there happened to see him at Denny’s and called the base. No graduation for him. He ruined all those weeks of basic training to go to Denny’s with his family. His family knew the rules too, they were pounded into us.
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Didn't;t they do away with the honor code?
The honor code at West Point is "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do."
Same honor code as Texas A&M Cadets, as far back as the 80's.
No mention of wild shenanigans and substance abuse while on leave from base in their honor code.
I do give them credit for performing CPR on their fellow cadets - working together to save their lives. That's a part of the military behavior, for sure. Don't just skitter away when your buddies are in trouble.
The military is NOT known, especially the young military members, for being casper milquetoasts spending their off hours in the library.
The military is the military. Most of them like wild horses in their youths.
They will almost certainly be expelled. Recruits are different today. There was a couple of dozen cadets sitting separately when we went to Paris Island for my nephews marine graduation. I asked who they were abs was told they are cadets who weren’t being allowed to graduate for a variety of reasons.
One recruit violated a rule that weekend by leaving the base on parents weekend (leading up to graduation) for dinner with his family, despite them telling us repeatedly it was against the rules. He even wore his fatigues to dinner, another violation. A veteran there happened to see him at Denny’s and called the base. No graduation for him. He ruined all those weeks of basic training to go to Denny’s with his family. His family knew the rules too, they were pounded into us.
No, they're not. Transgressions at the service academies with penalties up to and including expulsion are as old as the academies themselves.
Take this 2003 coverage of the Naval Academy:
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Nearly 100 midshipmen "pirates" caught illegally downloading copyrighted movies, music and pornography. A professor exposed as a plagiarist. A senior accused of raping and threatening to kill a plebe. And finally, a few weeks ago, a three-star admiral resigning as superintendent, dragged down by Navy investigators for being too harsh a leader.
An extraordinary few months at the Naval Academy? Not really.
In fact, scandal is one of the school's ritual experiences, as familiar a part of its history as the list of famous Naval officers and statesmen the institution has produced. In its archetypal form, the Annapolis scandal unfolds this way: cover-up, exposure, media feeding frenzy, investigation, high-handed purge of culprits, backlash from outraged alumni, reform and a short spell of calm before the cycle restarts.
A sad, but true, fact is that research reveals cheating scandals at the Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard academies in 1951, 1965, 1967, 1974, 1976, 1984, 1992 and 2004, among other disciplinary incidents at each location.
The Eggnog Riot (1826) resulted in 20 courts-martial of cadets: The Whiskey-Fueled Riot That Forged West Point
In the 19th century, the vaunted school was more ‘Animal House’ than military academy https://warisboring.com/the-whiskey-...ed-west-point/
These are just samplings. It's nothing new. The days of yore weren't less populated by the usual ratio of attackers and cheaters and drug users than today.
The honor code at West Point is "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do."
Same honor code as Texas A&M Cadets, as far back as the 80's.
No mention of wild shenanigans and substance abuse while on leave from base in their honor code.
I do give them credit for performing CPR on their fellow cadets - working together to save their lives. That's a part of the military behavior, for sure. Don't just skitter away when your buddies are in trouble.
The military is NOT known, especially the young military members, for being casper milquetoasts spending their off hours in the library.
The military is the military. Most of them like wild horses in their youths.
Prayers they all recover.
Yeah, yeah ... drug usage is perfectly acceptable because it isn't specified in the Honor Code.
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