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I'll bet your kids will have those loans paid back in no time, too. They won't be the ones complaining about how they still have student loan debt in retirement.
Sometimes they are just as entitled as the rest of their generation, so we'll see!
I for one am all in having the feds forgive student loans. It is the worst policy ever enacted but if the Feds want to give me $30k, I am not saying no!
The worst part of this policy it will inordinately benefit the wealthy. The Dems are very confused when it comes to SALT and student loan forgiveness.
Sometimes they are just as entitled as the rest of their generation, so we'll see!
I for one am all in having the feds forgive student loans. It is the worst policy ever enacted but if the Feds want to give me $30k, I am not saying no!
The worst part of this policy it will inordinately benefit the wealthy. The Dems are very confused when it comes to SALT and student loan forgiveness.
Well I'm sure some of the politicians would love to have their own student loans forgiven so I think the Dems aren't too confused about what they are doing..
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The worst part of this policy it will inordinately benefit the wealthy.
Really? The wealthy have the majority of school loans? I doubt it.
Benefits and encourages an entire unaccountable industry to keep promoting themselves, raising tuition, and not delivering results. Equipping (?) Students, robbing parents in the name of success(?).
Have you hired recent grads? OMG they're likely very poorly educated.
What are we getting? What are we providing for our future?
I don't know... I think the two year community college degree should be incorporated into high school throughout the country. If really smart kids want to they could still be allowed to graduate in four years and everyone else could go 5-6. For those not going onto college some technical skills (be it computer, drone operator, nursing, massage, plumbing, electrical, etc. could be taught).
Then, let the market dictate university level college for grade 15, 16, 17, 18, etc. and take the feds out of the equation. See what happens. It would become competitive in quality and cost.
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I don't know... I think the two year community college degree should be incorporated into high school throughout the country. If really smart kids want to they could still be allowed to graduate in four years and everyone else could go 5-6. For those not going onto college some technical skills (be it computer, drone operator, nursing, massage, plumbing, electrical, etc. could be taught).
Then, let the market dictate university level college for grade 15, 16, 17, 18, etc. and take the feds out of the equation. See what happens. It would become competitive in quality and cost.
EU / UK is somewhat similar A levels - O levels
I noted that Colorado reported 37,000 HS students took college level courses via Dual enrollment and AP. That's a good start for no really pushing that program. Some HS kids are ready, others are not. But having the choice is a great option for those who are beyond HS babysitting.
I noted that Colorado reported 37,000 HS students took college level courses via Dual enrollment and AP. That's a good start for no really pushing that program. Some HS kids are ready, others are not. But having the choice is a great option for those who are beyond HS babysitting.
Dual enrollment is great for those that are ready for it. But it can be pretty disastrous for those who aren't ready for it. And, worse, there is the risk that DE classes will be watered down to help all students "succeed" which helps absolutely no one.
If kids are pushed to rush through the HS level in order to take DE, that could wind up undermining their entire foundation.
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Dual enrollment is great for those that are ready for it. But it can be pretty disastrous for those who aren't ready for it. And, worse, there is the risk that DE classes will be watered down to help all students "succeed" which helps absolutely no one.
If kids are pushed to rush through the HS level in order to take DE, that could wind up undermining their entire foundation.
if DE is 100% aminsitered by tghe higher EDU institution and is a common 100+ level course available to all college enrollees, it's not gonna be watered down (nor should it be).
Either you can hack it, or you can't. Better to find out sooner (as a HS kid) han as a FT college kid.
I have known thousands of successful DE students, a challenge, but they could all hack it (by choice - the alternative is 2-4 wasted yrs with peers)). Just chatted with one a few minutes ago at a picnic. Tested into college as a 9th grader. He's ready (academically and emoitionally). Some are not. They can stay at the babysitter (public HS).
The program is open to 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th-graders who receive academic plan approval and meet application deadlines and college course requirements.
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Over 37,000 high school students take advantage of Concurrent Enrollment each year. This saves families approximately $39 million in college tuition costs! CCCS colleges award approximately 2,700 credentials to Concurrent Enrollment students annually – which significantly reduces the time it takes for these students to complete their college degree by over one year! And these students also benefit by being more competitive in the job market post high school and when applying to college.
Data shows that Concurrent Enrollment students have a 25% higher rate of pursuing a college pathway or postsecondary workforce training.
How do you change withholding,say a person is single?
You can actually instruct your employer to hold more, even if you claim zero dependents. I had to do this back when I worked two jobs. I kept owing money (common with people who work more than ione job), so I calculated it on the witholdings worksheet, and had my employer hold $xx.xx more money per paycheck, just so I didn’t owe money at the end of the year.
I don't know... I think the two year community college degree should be incorporated into high school throughout the country. If really smart kids want to they could still be allowed to graduate in four years and everyone else could go 5-6. For those not going onto college some technical skills (be it computer, drone operator, nursing, massage, plumbing, electrical, etc. could be taught).
Then, let the market dictate university level college for grade 15, 16, 17, 18, etc. and take the feds out of the equation. See what happens. It would become competitive in quality and cost.
I like your idea, but do we really want 20 year olds hanging out with 14 year olds all day?
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I like your idea, but do we really want 20 year olds hanging out with 14 year olds all day?
Those 14yo that still need babysat, can stay in their little age segregated cocoon. (Which has proven to not be so safe, encouraging, and successful).
Age segregated learning is a poor excuse for advancing knowledge and growing up a diversified learner and contributor to the entire society.
Adulting, would help stabilize loan choice and avoid the necessity (?) for forgiveness.
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