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View Poll Results: Which system will see more expansion/success?
Miami Metrorail 23 74.19%
Houston METRORail 8 25.81%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-22-2023, 05:23 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Two urban areas around 6 million each, each one with barely over 20 miles of urban rail.


One heavy rail (Miami), the other light (Houston).

Ridership is pretty close, with a slight edge to Miami.

Miami appears to have had roughly 60 miles of expansions in mind at some point.

Houston's expansion plans seem more likely.


Which one will succeed in the end?
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Old 08-22-2023, 05:30 PM
 
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100% Miami.
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Old 08-22-2023, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Both expansions aren’t what they should be. If the metromover ever gets serious about extending to Miami Beach, I’d say that’s the better expansion of the 2.

As said in the OP, the Katy BRT is the most likely project to take off between the 2. Connecting downtown to uptown even on BRT would be important. But I’d say connecting Miami Beach builds on a greater existing system.

For how much Biden’s infrastructure bill got in hype, there doesn’t seem to be much to show for it as far as public transport is concerned. I have no crystal ball to see which project will actually break ground between these 2. So I’m sitting this vote out
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Old 08-22-2023, 05:53 PM
 
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Miami/Ft Lauderdale metro is becoming a lot more mass transit friendly these days. I don’t know enough about Houston to form an educated opinion on the comparison, though.
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Old 08-22-2023, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Miami is way more influenced by the northeast, so it will continue to urbanize and become more transit-friendly.

Houston follows LA on this trend.
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Old 08-22-2023, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Miami is way more influenced by the northeast, so it will continue to urbanize and become more transit-friendly.

Houston follows LA on this trend.
Interesting observation. The head of Central Houston, Inc. came from Los Angeles…
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Old 08-23-2023, 04:42 AM
 
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Miami/Ft Lauderdale metro is becoming a lot more mass transit friendly these days. I don’t know enough about Houston to form an educated opinion on the comparison, though.
Yes, especially if you include Tri-Rail and Brightline and not just Metrorail and Metromover alone.
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:26 AM
 
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Brickell is more walkable/transit friendly than anywhere in the state of Texas. And like someone said, the people moving to Miami and the people moving to Houston are two different groups. People moving to Miami are used to solid transit systems
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Old 08-23-2023, 08:40 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Not just the people for Northern areas moving to Miami, but those international migrants, many come from large mega cities of their own with much greater transit systems than what is provided in much of the US. I guess Houston has this too though.

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Old 08-23-2023, 09:42 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Miami. They have a mix of heavy, light, and commuter rail. Houston has a bunch as trams. They will likely have the first true high speed rail line to connect to Dallas, so that's something i suppose.
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