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Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by Spade
It will be interesting to see what this is for 2010. Because this just seems off. Way off. But of course, it's from 2000.
How can they be for 2000 when Houston got its mass transit system in 2004. These figures in the year 2000 are impossible for Houston especially since its mass transit came into existence in 2004 itself.
I'm not saying they are 100% correct but I also think people here are freaking out like that dude who started going off about how Queens and The Bronx and stuff should be counted. WTF?! First of all, for the most part it seems accurate with the exception of the Multi-Nodal Metropolitan Areas like Minneapolis-Saint Paul, Bay Area, Dallas-Fort Worth, etc.
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Second of all, why the hell are we combining Uptowns and stuff here?
Since when is an Uptown or Midtown considered a CBD? There is ONLY one CBD in every CITY (Not cities). That's why its called Central Business District. Things like Midtown and Uptown and whatever are just other business districts not Central Business Districts.
Midtown Houston & Downtown Houston are connected and TMC is connected to Binz Business District which is connected to Midtown. Does that mean I can add up the employment for all 4 of those districts with Downtown Houston? Hell no, those aren't the official CBD's.
Again, I don't know exactly how accurate these numbers are. But unless someone else has numbers for all of the following categories this is what we've got to work with. I'm open to updates since 2006 for this though. If anyone wants to add updates in, than its cool.
But again, people why are you getting so worked up? What's with this whole combining areas and going on tangents about how its not fair Multi-Nodal places have an advantage over Singular Nodal places? Life's not fair. Deal with it. Bay Area has 3 defined CBD's. The Metroplex has 2. The Twin Cities have 2. There isn't anything we can do to stop that, so why are people hating on it?
How can they be for 2000 when Houston got its mass transit system in 2004. These figures in the year 2000 are impossible for Houston especially since its mass transit came into existence in 2004 itself.
Well remember, mass transit is more than rail. If this was specifically for rail, then they demographia should have specifically said that. But for some reason, people usually only equate rail as mass transit. Houston has had a decent bus system for a while (most used in the state of Texas).
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Well remember, mass transit is more than rail. If this was specifically for rail, then they demographia should have specifically said that. But for some reason, people usually only equate rail as mass transit. Houston has had a decent bus system for a while (most used in the state of Texas).
But the figures for Houston mass transit numbers are the exact same as its rail system which only does Downtown to Reliant. Which both lists verify as exactly that figure.
Houston's bus ridership figures are beyond higher than its rail systems, especially given area in Inner Loop.
But the figures for Houston mass transit numbers are the exact same as its rail system which only does Downtown to Reliant. Which both lists verify as exactly that figure.
Houston's bus ridership figures are beyond higher than its rail systems, especially given area in Inner Loop.
Oh really? In that case, that really seems off for DC, than. I would imagine that most people use transit for DC in the form of many commuter bus, regular buses, and of course, a high capacity metro system. Mostly because parking is either unavailable for DC and parking is becoming expensive.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by Spade
Oh really? In that case, that really seems off for DC, than. I would imagine that most people use transit for DC in the form of many commuter bus, regular buses, and of course, a high capacity metro system. Mostly because parking is either unavailable for DC and parking is becoming expensive.
No clue. I'll look more into recent numbers. I know for a fact that by 2012, TMC alone is supposed to have more employment base than Downtown Dallas, and by 2014 it will have more than Downtown Houston & Downtown Los Angeles.
I want to get the most recent information as possible for all of them and compile them into one area. I think that will ward off a lot of the controversy here by just combining every business district in the city itself.
Oh really? In that case, that really seems off for DC, than. I would imagine that most people use transit for DC in the form of many commuter bus, regular buses, and of course, a high capacity metro system. Mostly because parking is either unavailable for DC and parking is becoming expensive.
yeah, it does not factor in the number of people coming in from the north (where the rail does not venture, or the western bound buses. Buses like the #6 go from uptown to downtown carrying a lot of business professionals.
also buses like the 53, 81 and 82 run very frequently and are always packed.
Is everyone simultaneously on their period right now? Someone posts stats and the only thing that happens is everyone cries about it.
Danny says in the first post that the information is from 2006...and somehow no one is able to comprehend that it means the stats are for 2006 and not 2010 since all anyone does is say: "OMGZ THIS IS WORTHLESS IT'S OUTDATED...IN 2006 THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T REALIZE BLAH BLAH BLAH WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND NOW DALLAS HAS A DOWNTOWN WORKFORCE POPULATION OF 5 MILLION, BTW CHECK OUT THIS RENDERING FOR A SKYSCRAPER THAT HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET. SO OBVIOUSLY 2006 WASN'T TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPACT OF THIS BUILDING WHICH IS SET TO BE COMPLETED IN 2013."
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Originally Posted by skys the limit2
The number of transit users for Downtown Dallas employment use will have increased as well along with the growth of Dallas' light rail mass transit system into the nation's largest system.
Dallas' LR system has the most miles of rail, but it is nowhere near the highest in terms of ridership.
Second of all, why the hell are we combining Uptowns and stuff here?
Since when is an Uptown or Midtown considered a CBD? There is ONLY one CBD in every CITY (Not cities). That's why its called Central Business District. Things like Midtown and Uptown and whatever are just other business districts not Central Business Districts.
Yea, I'm puzzled why Midtown won't be considered a CBD.
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