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Old 08-07-2017, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Don Baylor, the former Yankee who won the American League MVP with the California Angels in 1979, died Monday from cancer. He was 68.

“Don passed from this earth with the same fierce dignity with which he played the game and lived his life,” his wife, Rebecca, said in a statement, per ESPN.

Baylor played in 19 major-league seasons with the Angels, Orioles, Yankees, Red Sox, A’s and Twins. He made the All-Star team during his MVP season with the Angels, leading the league in RBIs and runs.

Baylor appeared in three straight World Series with the Red Sox, Twins and A's, winning the title with Minnesota in 1987.

Baylor, who won three Silver Slugger awards as a designated hitter, also played in the outfield and at first base throughout his career, which ended in 1988.

Baylor returned in the dugout as manager for the Rockies from their inaugural 1993 season until 1998, earning NL Manager of the Year honors in 1995. He worked as Cubs skipper from 2000-02 and served as bench coach for the Mets from 2003-04.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.3390540




PHILADELPHIA — Darren Daulton, the All-Star catcher who was the leader of the Philadelphia Phillies’ NL championship team in 1993, has died. He was 55.

Daulton had battled brain cancer since 2013. He had two tumors removed during brain surgery on July 1, 2013, but nine days later was diagnosed with glioblastoma, an aggressive form of brain cancer that also took the lives of his former teammate Tug McGraw and former coach John Vukovich.

Daulton played 14 1/2 of his 15 major league seasons with Philadelphia and finished his career with the 1997 World Series champion Florida Marlins, batting .389 (7 for 18) with two doubles and one homer in a seven-game series against Cleveland.

The left-handed hitting Daulton batted .245 with 137 homers and 588 RBIs in 1,161 games. He went to three All-Star games and led the NL with 109 RBIs in 1992. The long-haired Daulton was beloved by Phillies fans and respected by teammates.

He policed a wild clubhouse in ’93 that included Lenny Dykstra, John Kruk, Dave Hollins, Pete Incaviglia, Mitch Williams and Curt Schilling.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.3389516
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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Dutch was in a long line of great Phillies catchers.. Ozzie Virgil, Lance Parrish, Daulton, Lieberthal then Ruiz

He had some.. Interesting theories that he relayed in the mid 00's. Most people seemed to use the term "Bat-*hit Crazy" to describe them.

I was always glad that he got traded to the Marlins in '97 and was able to win a World Series with them. He deserved it.

It's a little strange that there seems to be a minor cluster of glioblastoma cases from Phillies players.. Tug McGraw and John Vukovich both died of it as well.
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Old 08-07-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: The City
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Dutch was in a long line of great Phillies catchers.. Ozzie Virgil, Lance Parrish, Daulton, Lieberthal then Ruiz

He had some.. Interesting theories that he relayed in the mid 00's. Most people seemed to use the term "Bat-*hit Crazy" to describe them.

I was always glad that he got traded to the Marlins in '97 and was able to win a World Series with them. He deserved it.

It's a little strange that there seems to be a minor cluster of glioblastoma cases from Phillies players.. Tug McGraw and John Vukovich both died of it as well.


that would be a pretty significant statistical anomaly, makes you wonder what was in the Vet clubhouse
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Old 08-07-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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that would be a pretty significant statistical anomaly, makes you wonder what was in the Vet clubhouse
I don't know if it is or not.. I have no idea what the 'normal' rates for it are.. but just on the face of it.. It does make you raise an eyebrow and take notice.
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Baylor had a fine career, but his 1979 MVP award was one of the voting writer's bigger goofs.

This was back in the days when the voters got dazzled by high RBI totals at the expense of looking at anything else. Baylor led the AL in RBI, but compiled 3.7 WAR for the season. The next 16 players who received votes for MVP that year all had higher WARs than Baylor. Baylor's OPS for 1979 was .901. Nine of the players who received votes had higher OPS.

The actual MVP should have been Fred Lynn who posted a 1.059 OPS and compiled 8.8 WAR, both figures leading the AL.

Please do not interpret the above as me disrespecting Baylor in any manner, my criticism is directed at the voters.
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Baylor was a deadline acquisition for the Twins, only played in 20 games but was a huge reason the team went on a home game terror down the stretch and won the division, he also had a great ALCS and World Series...he was just back in town a week or so ago and on field when they brought many of those players back for a 30th WS anniversary reunion.


Late Don Baylor called time with Twins 'the best time I ever had in the game'
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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Am very saddened by the passing of both these men. Daulton was SO young! Only 55 yers old.

Regarding Baylor, he and general manager Bob Gebhard did a good job of getting a new franchise off to a respectable start. I was somewhat saddened when Baylor was let go. He took it in stride though and later became the Rockies batting coach, IIRC it was in the 2008 and 2009 seasons.

Both were quality men.
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Old 08-07-2017, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Bad day for baseball. My condolences to both families.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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I don't know if it is or not.. I have no idea what the 'normal' rates for it are.. but just on the face of it.. It does make you raise an eyebrow and take notice.


it should be about 1 in 50,000 people


this is 3 in about 6,000, statistically extraordinary
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:58 PM
 
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Sad about Don Baylor. I loved it when he and Winfield were on the Yankees. Two big guys who were fun to watch. Seemed like a nice fella too.

RIP Don
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